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Old 12-23-2020, 10:37 AM
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Bruce Fulper built a real potent 350 -several years back,

Can''t remember which mag it was a featured build in.

maybe someone else has a link


IIRC 540 HP on pump gas
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:41 PM
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Bruce Fulper built a real potent 350 -several years back,

Can''t remember which mag it was a featured build in.

maybe someone else has a link


IIRC 540 HP on pump gas
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Yes he sure did... He copied much of my build!

AFTER I purchased all my parts from R&RE and built my 350 at the Auto Hobby in Aviano Italy. Back then the internet was not what it is today and I purchased all my parts from R&RE while stationed overseas. Spent lots of time on the phone with Bruce talking about the build and spent lots of money with him as well. So he knew exactly what I did to my P350 and he seemed to like it so much he decided to build a similar 350 himself.

I do believe I was one of the first if not the only people to shoe horn a set of 72cc EDL RPM round Ports to a P350 Firebird back in 1997ish...

My engine was .040 bore with 10.75:1cr and ran great on pump gas. I dont recall the cam specs however I still have it, Ill go take a look and see if it has any numbers on it.

over 10 years later I learn that Bruce built and published an article (well after my 350 build) on a similar combination... I kind of expected to read some form of credit given towards my build... but no credit given.

Anyway, the car ran a 13.5 @ 108* <--- Trap speed was good for 12.5x potential but that was with a 10 bolt peg leg (one wheel wonder) . It basically spun one tire all of first and most of 2nd. With traction it would have ran high to mid 11's, I later on added a 4.10 rear gear and an Auburn posi and 6pt roll bars however never got back to the track with that combination. If I had to guess I would say it put down just over 400RWHP and 480ish crank.

Anyway, if I where building a P350 today, I would use the EDL RPM heads out of the box, do a .060+ bore and add a forged crank and run 10-15lbs boost.

SPEED SAFE, NICK

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Old 12-23-2020, 04:07 PM
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Yes he sure did... He copied much of my build!

AFTER I purchased all my parts from R&RE and built my 350 at the Auto Hobby in Aviano Italy. Back then the internet was not what it is today and I purchased all my parts from R&RE while stationed overseas. Spent lots of time on the phone with Bruce talking about the build and spent lots of money with him as well. So he knew exactly what I did to my P350 and he seemed to like it so much he decided to build a similar 350 himself.

I do believe I was one of the first if not the only people to shoe horn a set of 72cc EDL RPM round Ports to a P350 Firebird back in 1997ish...

My engine was .040 bore with 10.75:1cr and ran great on pump gas. I dont recall the cam specs however I still have it, Ill go take a look and see if it has any numbers on it.

over 10 years later I learn that Bruce built and published an article (well after my 350 build) on a similar combination... I kind of expected to read some form of credit given towards my build... but no credit given.

Anyway, the car ran a 13.5 @ 108* <--- Trap speed was good for 12.5x potential with a 10 bolt peg leg. It basically spun all of first and most of 2nd. With traction it would have ran high to mid 11's, I later on added a 4.10 rear gear and an Auburn posi and 6pt roll bars however never got back to the track with that combination.

Anyway, if I where building a P350 today, I would use the EDL RPM heads out of the box, add a forged crank and run boost.

SPEED SAFE, NICK
Wow - learn something new every day.

So your engine was the catalyst for the build.

I just remember reading the article and being kind of blown away by the HP the pump gas 350 produced for its time. Seems like the writer was so surprised that they Tore the engine down because they did not believe it was really just a 350 cube engine.
Yeah I don't remember any credit given for the 1st iteration or builder, just Bruce RRE.

My hat is off to you Sir.

It would be great to have your complete build listed, Kind of a "Broke the mold" engine.

heck I have couple P 350's sitting , maybe someday with the right project car.


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Can't talk about Pontiac 350 engines, in the race section, without mentioning all the quick national record holding '74 Venturas that have run, thru the years. They've won big races & got class wins at Indy.

Bill Rink ran quick in Stock, & is still quick with his '74 GTO, in SS.

Also been some quick '77 Birds running a 350, in Stock & SS. Mike Morgan still runs one in a '77 SS Formy. He's won class at Indy & has been R/U to Bill Rink several times.

Member Adam Strang ran some 10.80's with his 350HO powered '68 Bird Stocker.

My Pontiac friend, who is also a member here, won quite a few dirt races with a Pontiac 350.

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Yes he sure did... He copied much of my build!

AFTER I purchased all my parts from R&RE and built my 350 at the Auto Hobby in Aviano Italy. Back then the internet was not what it is today and I purchased all my parts from R&RE while stationed overseas. Spent lots of time on the phone with Bruce talking about the build and spent lots of money with him as well. So he knew exactly what I did to my P350 and he seemed to like it so much he decided to build a similar 350 himself.

I do believe I was one of the first if not the only people to shoe horn a set of 72cc EDL RPM round Ports to a P350 Firebird back in 1997ish...

My engine was .040 bore with 10.75:1cr and ran great on pump gas. I dont recall the cam specs however I still have it, Ill go take a look and see if it has any numbers on it.

over 10 years later I learn that Bruce built and published an article (well after my 350 build) on a similar combination... I kind of expected to read some form of credit given towards my build... but no credit given.

Anyway, the car ran a 13.5 @ 108* <--- Trap speed was good for 12.5x potential but that was with a 10 bolt peg leg (one wheel wonder) . It basically spun one tire all of first and most of 2nd. With traction it would have ran high to mid 11's, I later on added a 4.10 rear gear and an Auburn posi and 6pt roll bars however never got back to the track with that combination. If I had to guess I would say it put down just over 400RWHP and 480ish crank.

Anyway, if I where building a P350 today, I would use the EDL RPM heads out of the box, do a .060+ bore and add a forged crank and run 10-15lbs boost.

SPEED SAFE, NICK
That’s impressive, and that guy sure has a bad rep.

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