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Old 04-18-2021, 08:20 AM
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Do you have the 60243 camshaft in hand? I haven't called to check on my order yet, they are showing various dates out a week (Crower website/e-mail) to August(Summit) for availability. I ordered one via Crower's website a couple days ago. I've got a 428 that I'm finally assembling, Icon pistons w/10cc dish. I have '68 #16 heads and compression calculates to about 10.5

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Old 04-18-2021, 08:41 AM
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Do you have the 60243 camshaft in hand? I haven't called to check on my order yet, they are showing various dates out a week (Crower website/e-mail) to August(Summit) for availability. I ordered one via Crower's website a couple days ago. I've got a 428 that I'm finally assembling, Icon pistons w/10cc dish. I have '68 #16 heads and compression calculates to about 10.5

Woven - isn’t that compression a bit high for pump gas, or do you have access to AV fuel or race gas to mix?


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Woven - isn’t that compression a bit high for pump gas, or do you have access to AV fuel or race gas to mix?


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My other engines are 12.0(Pontiac w/RA II heads), 10.2(Pontiac), 9.9(Buick) and a stock '71 455HO engine. No pinging on any of them. I do run 100+ octane in the 12.0. So, this is a little higher but nothing like the 12.0. I do have ready access to 93 here in Texas.

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Someone on this board might know what the volume is on the head of those 428 pistons is so you would not have to cc it. I don’t have them in any of my speedpro or TRW books. Speedpro may have changed them on the later years and made the dish a bigger diameter. Seems like the later production runs had a 8.5 cc dish and 5 cc VR’s and the older pistons like yours are a 5 cc dish with just under 6 cc VR’s. Measure the dish dimensions and see which pistons you have. Then check the deck clearance.

The 6x-4s on that 428 is more of an 87 octane combo with either cam. I am guessing there is just under 2 points difference in octane requirements between the Crower 60243 and the 274XE. I would not consider either cam big enough to be a “crutch”. I would not do Rhoads if you have the Johnsons already.

I agree with FJ, figure the compression and pick the
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Someone on this board might know what the volume is on the head of those 428 pistons is so you would not have to cc it. I don’t have them in any of my speedpro or TRW books. Speedpro may have changed them on the later years and made the dish a bigger diameter. Seems like the later production runs had a 8.5 cc dish and 5 cc VR’s and the older pistons like yours are a 5 cc dish with just under 6 cc VR’s. Measure the dish dimensions and see which pistons you have. Then check the deck clearance.


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Yep, that L2257 number has long been superseded. Back about a year ago I posted that number and the pictures showing what I used in a 428 build (same thing here) and several members swore up and down those were 400 pistons. They are in fact 428 pistons and that was a good TRW part number at the time. I bought mine nearly 25 years ago.

They are flat top pistons originally, with 4 valve reliefs. I can't remember what the CC of the valve reliefs were anymore. The dish you are seeing in my previous picture, I machined in there. In the OP picture someone has done the same thing, although to a lesser degree. Way back when there weren't any off the shelf forged dish pistons for 428's, pickins were slim, so we had to make our own.

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