[Verdoro 68]

Saw that car over the weekend. Not much left to work with. I wondered how they had the documentation without the vin. It's a shame - a Nightshade RAII stripper would be a cool car.

[68pongto]

Originally Posted by Verdoro 68

Saw that car over the weekend. Not much left to work with. I wondered how they had the documentation without the vin. It's a shame - a Nightshade RAII stripper would be a cool car.

The seller said the partial VIN was on the cowl, but it is a Pontiac plant car. I have only seen the partial VIN under the heater box in 68 on the Baltimore built cars.

[Mcronk]

Some incorrect information with that ad. RA I and RA II used the same option code 347. The change from RA I to RA II was treated as a running change and used the same option code 347. It appears the hand written note on the billing card was to add an additional $101.65 to invoice cost due to the RA II 347 option. The date probably indicates when the change was made. The fact this billing card was very early in production there could have been updates to the cost for the RA II engine option.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Credit and Debit Memo's that get noted on these Billings are at Dealer Net price structures - to the Dealer.
Not at retail pricing structure - to the public.

The few other ultra-early documented Ram2 Birds/Goats had the same $101.65 CMD Memo's on them.
Mattison will usually include a hand written note on the cover page when a RamAir II or Special Paint car gets documented. I don't know for sure if he is still handling all PHS requests himself personally.

Always a good idea to get your own copy in these days and times when readying for a purchase.

I hope the car gets saved - and most likely it will eventually in the right hands at the right place.
No other Nightshade Deuce Car is known.
It would be a Killer

The parts list would be easy to compile.
One of EVERYTHING.

I wondered how they had the documentation without the vin.

He has the Title , with the VIN on it.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Not to muddy the water, just reflecting on days gone by.
TheBoss had a VooDoo RamAir GTO from Baltimore on the cusp that was billed 2 Days AFTER this eBay Car.

VooDoo Ram1 Baltimore - May 8
NightShade Ram2 PMD - May 6 , with May 7 Memo

It was THAT CLOSE ! (Maxwell Smart)
I know its a heartbreaker if he views this saga.

The difference in order dates, build sequencing and plant difference play parts in the role.
And maybe even the VooDoo buyer didn't want the up-sale//up-charge to Ram2.
But it was THAT CLOSE !

[68pongto]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

VooDoo Ram1 Baltimore - May 8
NightShade Ram2 PMD - May 6 , with May 7 Memo

BVZ do you think this RA II on eBay could possibly be the first ever produced? It sure looks that way. I have data on other GTO's from the Pontiac plant and with the VIN ending in 294400, it would put its build week at 04E. My duece from Chris is 05C build week and I thought that was super early, I guess not now. I would think it would make sense that the Pontiac assembly plant would be the first of any of them to build something new since the engine plant was right there too. The Pontiac plant also built the most Pontiacs in 68.

[68pongto]

It looks like Haydocy Pontiac was into racing back in the day, I wonder if they knew somebody at PMD and ordered that RA II GTO early on for racing?

[Mcronk]

Purchased a non running 70 RA IV Judge 4 speed Orbit Orange back in mid 80's. Originally just wanted the RA IV heads for a race motor I was building. After confirming the Judge emblem on glovebox was original and a box of spare parts had a NOS set of Judge stripes/decals, I decided to store the car until I finished the race car. Also a friend who ran a body shop recognized the car and said he painted it Cardinal Red, replaced fender, and fixed the door. The guy did not like the Orange color so they painted it red! I lost storage space and ended up parting out the car and selling rolling body to a guy who put a roll bar in it and a BBC. A few years later someone I sold parts too asked if I knew where the car was. I tracked it down but it was beat/rusty and just a roller. They were not really interested in restoring that car. They wanted the tags to build one like it. The guy who had it knew what it was and by then had the PHS on it. I think it rotted to the ground or got crushed. Never saw or heard of it again.

[Mcronk]

My car was built 05D and invoiced 5/31/68. There is no hand written notes on the Billing History card. It is a Pontiac plant car. My PHS does have a handwritten note saying it is a Ram Air II GTO.

[68pongto]

Originally Posted by Mcronk

My car was built 05D and invoiced 5/31/68. There is no hand written notes on the Billing History card. It is a Pontiac plant car. My PHS does have a handwritten note saying it is a Ram Air II GTO.

My Billing History Card from the Pontiac plant is dated 5/28/1968 and a build date of 05C and it has no handwritten price increase either.

[gtospieg]

I saw that and wondered if it was one of the cars on the list. Great color...Aegean Blue?