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Old 05-18-2021, 05:20 PM
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VooDoo Ram1 Baltimore - May 8
NightShade Ram2 PMD - May 6 , with May 7 Memo
BVZ do you think this RA II on eBay could possibly be the first ever produced? It sure looks that way. I have data on other GTO's from the Pontiac plant and with the VIN ending in 294400, it would put its build week at 04E. My duece from Chris is 05C build week and I thought that was super early, I guess not now. I would think it would make sense that the Pontiac assembly plant would be the first of any of them to build something new since the engine plant was right there too. The Pontiac plant also built the most Pontiacs in 68.

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Old 05-18-2021, 06:37 PM
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It looks like Haydocy Pontiac was into racing back in the day, I wonder if they knew somebody at PMD and ordered that RA II GTO early on for racing?

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Old 05-18-2021, 10:10 PM
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Probably any of the Dealers with Racing Programs could have gotten a head start on a Deuce Car, if they were aggressive in the pursuit. But we don't have any surviving examples to know about it for sure.

As far as general production purposes, this Nightshade Deuce probably is the first or one of the very first.

Appreciate you finding info/picture of a Haydocy racer !
Maybe more can be found
Never heard of them before or seen any other invoices from them.
Ohio killed a lot of cars - miracle the Nightshade Deuce wasn't crushed years and years ago.

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Old 05-19-2021, 08:58 PM
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Probably any of the Dealers with Racing Programs could have gotten a head start on a Deuce Car, if they were aggressive in the pursuit. But we don't have any surviving examples to know about it for sure.

As far as general production purposes, this Nightshade Deuce probably is the first or one of the very first.

Appreciate you finding info/picture of a Haydocy racer !
Maybe more can be found
Never heard of them before or seen any other invoices from them.
Ohio killed a lot of cars - miracle the Nightshade Deuce wasn't crushed years and years ago.
Just in the last couple years several 67/68 ram air Firebirds have surfaced from Haydocy dealership

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Old 05-19-2021, 09:24 PM
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Somebody needs to question this guy and find out where he got this car.
He looks "shady"

I wouldn't buy a vacuum cleaner from him , or an insurance policy.

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Old 05-21-2021, 08:30 PM
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Purchased a non running 70 RA IV Judge 4 speed Orbit Orange back in mid 80's. Originally just wanted the RA IV heads for a race motor I was building. After confirming the Judge emblem on glovebox was original and a box of spare parts had a NOS set of Judge stripes/decals, I decided to store the car until I finished the race car. Also a friend who ran a body shop recognized the car and said he painted it Cardinal Red, replaced fender, and fixed the door. The guy did not like the Orange color so they painted it red! I lost storage space and ended up parting out the car and selling rolling body to a guy who put a roll bar in it and a BBC. A few years later someone I sold parts too asked if I knew where the car was. I tracked it down but it was beat/rusty and just a roller. They were not really interested in restoring that car. They wanted the tags to build one like it. The guy who had it knew what it was and by then had the PHS on it. I think it rotted to the ground or got crushed. Never saw or heard of it again.

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