[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by 77 TRASHCAN

LOL, they call the upper 80's "Hot" in that neck of the woods...

Since Norwalk is just off the shores of lake Erie 80 degrees with 80% humidity is just as hot as 100 degrees in 20% humidity. You can't just compare the ambient air temperature, relative humidity consideration is also needed to get a real perspective. Erie has an average daily humidity of 72%. Average humidity in OKC is 54%, almost 20% difference makes a lot of difference in comfort when you are outside.

I lived in Erie PA for 47 years, and the high humidity making the air less absorbent to evaporate the sweat on your skin is a major feeling of discomfort. My parents moved from Erie PA to Phoenix AZ, so I know for a fact how humidity in the air adds to discomfort with high ambient temperatures. I can do 100 degrees in Phoenix much easier than 85 degrees in Erie. Erie most times has enough humidity to be considered tropical, 70% is considered tropical, and Erie is 72% daily average. It's not apples to oranges comparing air temperatures if you throw out relative humidity.

I was at Norwalk on Friday afternoon, and it was very mild compared to what Norwalk is usually like in late July, early August. When we left Norwalk Friday we stopped at Attica Raceway park about 30 minutes SW from Norwalk to watch the sprint car races. I only had a shorts and a T shirt, fortunately we had a blanket in the car so the wife and I wrapped the blanket over us after the sun went down. That isn't usual for that time of year in northern Ohio. I've been at Norwalk previous years camping, and it was so hot at night, you just sweat lying in bed, so yes, this year was very mild temperatures for the event. I've attended Norwalk for 26 years consecutively less 2020 so I've seen major fluctuations in the weather for the event.

[69Goat1]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

Since Norwalk is just off the shores of lake Erie 80 degrees with 80% humidity is just as hot as 100 degrees in 20% humidity. You can't just compare the ambient air temperature, relative humidity consideration is also needed to get a real perspective. Erie has an average daily humidity of 72%. Average humidity in OKC is 54%, almost 20% difference makes a lot of difference in comfort when you are outside.

I lived in Erie PA for 47 years, and the high humidity making the air less absorbent to evaporate the sweat on your skin is a major feeling of discomfort. My parents moved from Erie PA to Phoenix AZ, so I know for a fact how humidity in the air adds to discomfort with high ambient temperatures. I can do 100 degrees in Phoenix much easier than 85 degrees in Erie. Erie most times has enough humidity to be considered tropical, 70% is considered tropical, and Erie is 72% daily average. It's not apples to oranges comparing air temperatures if you throw out relative humidity.

I was at Norwalk on Friday afternoon, and it was very mild compared to what Norwalk is usually like in late July, early August. When we left Norwalk Friday we stopped at Attica Raceway park about 30 minutes SW from Norwalk to watch the sprint car races. I only had a shorts and a T shirt, fortunately we had a blanket in the car so the wife and I wrapped the blanket over us after the sun went down. That isn't usual for that time of year in northern Ohio. I've been at Norwalk previous years camping, and it was so hot at night, you just sweat lying in bed, so yes, this year was very mild temperatures for the event. I've attended Norwalk for 26 years consecutively less 2020 so I've seen major fluctuations in the weather for the event.

Wow...I never sweated once in Norwalk but yesterday I sweated all day at home...you somehow think Oklahoma is a dry heat...lol I have been to Norwalk twice and both times I thought I was in Alaska or something...

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

Wow...I never sweated once in Norwalk but yesterday I sweated all day at home...you somehow think Oklahoma is a dry heat...lol I have been to Norwalk twice and both times I thought I was in Alaska or something...

Only time i sweated was in my car with my SFI fire suit on.
I worked in a steel mill for 44 years....I know heat! LOL!


GTO George

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

Wow...I never sweated once in Norwalk but yesterday I sweated all day at home...you somehow think Oklahoma is a dry heat...lol I have been to Norwalk twice and both times I thought I was in Alaska or something...

Having lived in Erie the majority of my life and traveled to and from AZ many many times since 1967 I'm very familiar with the summer heat in all the states between AZ and PA, that includes OK. a 20% difference in relative humidity is pretty major. When it gets over 85% in and around the great lakes it's like walking into an oven at 90 degrees ambient air temp, when sweat doesn't evaporate due to the latent humidity in the air you're just miserable, and A/C is about the only relief.

I have moved about 150 miles away from Lake Erie for a reason, the lake has very little influence on our weather this far away from it, more sunny days and less snow and rain. 200 inches of snow in a season is an indicator of how much water evaporates from Lake Erie in a season and how high the humidity is consistently. I know OK doesn't ever get 200 inches of snow in a winter season.

I also lived in Memphis for 2 years and it is no where as humid as it is in and around the great lakes. I was able to work outside in Memphis at near 100 degrees much easier than 85-90 in Erie with humidity over 80%. Fans blowing the humid air do almost nothing to cool you when the humidity is 80% or above. Having only been to Norwalk 2 times isn't a very accurate gauge, I've stayed in OKC in the summer many more than times than twice over my lifetime. TX, NM, AZ, OK, MO, been to all of them in the summer. Also been to FL many times in my life, and FL is the only place that is hotter, with high relative humidity and more miserable outside during the summer than PA/OH great lakes area.

I'm done debating the point, I have been around the great lakes, and out in the west in August, I'd much rather be somewhere that the humidity is lower and the temp is higher, rather than the reverse.

We have a saying in this part of the country, if you don't like the weather, wait 15 minutes, and it will change, it's pretty true because we have 25 degree changes in temperature within half an hour pretty consistently. Spend a year in Norwalk and I'll bet you'll change your mind about high humidity, and how it affects you outside in the summer. I'm done........

[69Goat1]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

Having lived in Erie the majority of my life and traveled to and from AZ many many times since 1967 I'm very familiar with the summer heat in all the states between AZ and PA, that includes OK. a 20% difference in relative humidity is pretty major. When it gets over 85% in and around the great lakes it's like walking into an oven at 90 degrees ambient air temp, when sweat doesn't evaporate due to the latent humidity in the air you're just miserable, and A/C is about the only relief.

I have moved about 150 miles away from Lake Erie for a reason, the lake has very little influence on our weather this far away from it, more sunny days and less snow and rain. 200 inches of snow in a season is an indicator of how much water evaporates from Lake Erie in a season and how high the humidity is consistently. I know OK doesn't ever get 200 inches of snow in a winter season.

I also lived in Memphis for 2 years and it is no where as humid as it is in and around the great lakes. I was able to work outside in Memphis at near 100 degrees much easier than 85-90 in Erie with humidity over 80%. Fans blowing the humid air do almost nothing to cool you when the humidity is 80% or above. Having only been to Norwalk 2 times isn't a very accurate gauge, I've stayed in OKC in the summer many more than times than twice over my lifetime. TX, NM, AZ, OK, MO, been to all of them in the summer. Also been to FL many times in my life, and FL is the only place that is hotter, with high relative humidity and more miserable outside during the summer than PA/OH great lakes area.

I'm done debating the point, I have been around the great lakes, and out in the west in August, I'd much rather be somewhere that the humidity is lower and the temp is higher, rather than the reverse.

We have a saying in this part of the country, if you don't like the weather, wait 15 minutes, and it will change, it's pretty true because we have 25 degree changes in temperature within half an hour pretty consistently. Spend a year in Norwalk and I'll bet you'll change your mind about high humidity, and how it affects you outside in the summer. I'm done........

All that to tell me I don’t know what heat is...lol. I run an open cab bulldozer for a living. My wife and I left miserably high temps AND humidity in 2018 to go up and check out the race and it was extremely nice up there yet we saw people from there complaining of the heat and just absolutely looking miserable and it was just mid 80’s...we thought we were in the best temps we had ever felt in August. We went up this time and it was even nicer...my car is pretty stock so I would just sit in it with my gear on and window rolled down and it was nice. I told her on the way home it must be so nice up there because of the lake breezes.

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

Wow...I never sweated once in Norwalk but yesterday I sweated all day at home...you somehow think Oklahoma is a dry heat...lol I have been to Norwalk twice and both times I thought I was in Alaska or something...

I’ve been going since the early days when TriPower Sunday was in September, had a few cold and rainy days back then. The early August heat typically costs the east coast guys two tenths. This week wasn’t your typical weather.

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