[Green Hornet]

Just to muddy the water a bit....I guess that VIN: 20N110363 could also be from a formula 400?

[johnta1]

No.
That VIN would be the only one in the Firebird line. (either Firebird, Esprit, Formula or TA)

[Green Hornet]

Originally Posted by johnta1

No.
That VIN would be the only one in the Firebird line. (either Firebird, Esprit, Formula or TA)

I that is what I posted........."splain?

[johnta1]

I guess that VIN: 20N110363 could also be from a formula 400?

OK, maybe I misinterpreted it wrong.

Only one VIN in the Firebird line. But it can be any model in the Firebird line.
There would not be the same digits in the Formula and in the TA.

There would not be a 228870N110363 (TA) and a 226870N110363 (Formula).

Sorry for any confusion if I read it wrong.

[Green Hornet]

Originally Posted by johnta1

OK, maybe I misinterpreted it wrong.

Only one VIN in the Firebird line. But it can be any model in the Firebird line.
There would not be the same digits in the Formula and in the TA.

There would not be a 228870N110363 (TA) and a 226870N110363 (Formula).

Sorry for any confusion if I read it wrong.

Just for your own info...

There is no style # included in the partial vin stamp....

2 is Pontiac...0....is 1970...N is Norwood...followed by sequential SN....

and I believe that Firebirds were the only Pontiacs built in Norwood...at that time?

[keith k]

Originally Posted by Green Hornet

Just to muddy the water a bit....I guess that VIN: 20N110363 could also be from a formula 400?

Yes it could. And it turns out it was (and is) indeed a Ram Air Formula.

I thought of that after I shut off my computer last night - looked this morning, and found it.

I think the related parties are likely already in touch with each other.

[Green Hornet]

Originally Posted by keith k

Yes it could. And it turns out it was (and is) indeed a Ram Air Formula.

I thought of that after I shut off my computer last night - looked this morning, and found it.

I think the related parties are likely already in touch with each other.

Great detective work...

[johnta1]

Just for your own info...

There is no style # included in the partial vin stamp....

2 is Pontiac...0....is 1970...N is Norwood...followed by sequential SN....

and I believe that Firebirds were the only Pontiacs built in Norwood...at that time?

Yes, correct.
I thought you were saying that a TA could have that 6 digits in VIN and a Formula could have that 6 digits in VIN.

2 plants in 70 - Van Nuys and Norwood

There could be a Firebird with those 6 digits - 110363 but would have a 'L' before it.

And the engine would have 20L110363

[johnta1]

Congrats on finding the car owner!

Would you have the EUN on the engine?

[Green Hornet]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Yes, correct.
I thought you were saying that a TA could have that 6 digits in VIN and a Formula could have that 6 digits in VIN.

2 plants in 70 - Van Nuys and Norwood

There could be a Firebird with those 6 digits - 110363 but would have a 'L' before it.

And the engine would have 20L110363

But....NO WS's...in base birds or Esprits....and N....is in posted VIN......"just sayin"

[giles]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Yes, correct.
I thought you were saying that a TA could have that 6 digits in VIN and a Formula could have that 6 digits in VIN.

2 plants in 70 - Van Nuys and Norwood

There could be a Firebird with those 6 digits - 110363 but would have a 'L' before it.

And the engine would have 20L110363

File under FWIW;
GM considers the last 8 characters of the VIN to uniquely identify a car, so style such as 2687 or 2887 does not matter. MY, plant and leading number matter. In the case of 70 Firebird there can be 4 VIN “0123”s:

0N100123
0L100123
0N600123
0L600123

I know we don’t talk about 6 cylinder cars much but they had unique VINs, and since they only made 2-3000 per year back then they are all low numbers.

[jhein]

Originally Posted by keith k

Yes it could. And it turns out it was (and is) indeed a Ram Air Formula.

I thought of that after I shut off my computer last night - looked this morning, and found it.

I think the related parties are likely already in touch with each other.

Yes, it is a RA Formula. As Green Hornet said, great detective work.

And yes we are in contact.

I never would have imagined that.

[FASTASSBIRD]

Originally Posted by keith k

Yes it could. And it turns out it was (and is) indeed a Ram Air Formula.

I thought of that after I shut off my computer last night - looked this morning, and found it.

I think the related parties are likely already in touch with each other.

I was 100% certain you knew the car for sure. It was pretty well discussed when it surfaced given its options. Pretty rare formula

[R 70 Judge]

Originally Posted by keith k

Yes it could. And it turns out it was (and is) indeed a Ram Air Formula.

I thought of that after I shut off my computer last night - looked this morning, and found it.

I think the related parties are likely already in touch with each other.

That is wild! I honestly didn't think it would belong to anyone here

[FASTASSBIRD]

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge

That is wild! I honestly didn't think it would belong to anyone here

2nd WS I’ve managed to pair up with the original car. Other one is a MUCH wilder story

[Ramairnacho]

Ok let's say I had a ws engine had it rebuilt had front plate of block where stamped surface ground just enough to erase the stamp. Had it restamoed to.fit my car . Hey it would be number matching Vin and block . Ha I would not do that and there is a lot of people hear that would . I would keep the block as a back up hard to find period. You guys will never admit that but you guys are out there. Keep it man!