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Old 02-15-2022, 04:57 PM
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Its obvious why Tony is so respected. More than just a few of the "name" Pontiac guys started with Butler, KRE or some other Pontiac specific shop.
They end up at BES and stay there.
Out of my league for sure.

Do you have any of those "name" guys in your stable ?
Asking for a friend.
We have or had quite a few World records "in our stable".

Now why don't you answer Slowbird and while your at it let us know everything you know about all of his cylinder heads.

One more question, now that the old head guy from Reher Morrison is the new head guy at BES whom has or had the better heads Reher or BES as long as you are the guy "in the know"?

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Old 02-16-2022, 01:50 AM
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We have or had quite a few World records "in our stable".

Now why don't you answer Slowbird and while your at it let us know everything you know about all of his cylinder heads.

One more question, now that the old head guy from Reher Morrison is the new head guy at BES whom has or had the better heads Reher or BES as long as you are the guy "in the know"?
Paul, I was just trying to throw you a bone with your EHTTFMF stuff.
If the ECM use BES, Langer who is the NA King that says all you need to say about them. If Tony is selling a Pontiac head his reputation is more than good. For the dollars others have spent on Pontiac heads it looks like his is a good deal. More choices is good for the hobby.
Not answering Sb question. Its a sucker move. He asks many questions, his MO.
I do not know anything about BES vs RM. Pontiacs are all I care about.

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Old 02-16-2022, 07:13 AM
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Paul, I was just trying to throw you a bone with your EHTTFMF stuff.
If the ECM use BES, Langer who is the NA King that says all you need to say about them. If Tony is selling a Pontiac head his reputation is more than good. For the dollars others have spent on Pontiac heads it looks like his is a good deal. More choices is good for the hobby.
Not answering Sb question. Its a sucker move. He asks many questions, his MO.
I do not know anything about BES vs RM. Pontiacs are all I care about.
You are a heck of a guy Troy! Thanks for trying to help after doing your best to discredit me and my business over the last few years. You can stop helping, as I have a two year back log and for the last few years have sadly had to turn away more work than I've taken in.

You should care about Reher Morrison if it wasn't for them Big Chief would still be changing main bearings every pass.

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Old 02-16-2022, 08:56 AM
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Paul, I was just trying to throw you a bone with your EHTTFMF stuff.
If the ECM use BES, Langer who is the NA King that says all you need to say about them. If Tony is selling a Pontiac head his reputation is more than good. For the dollars others have spent on Pontiac heads it looks like his is a good deal. More choices is good for the hobby.
Not answering Sb question. Its a sucker move. He asks many questions, his MO.
I do not know anything about BES vs RM. Pontiacs are all I care about.
Answering my question is a sucker move? You're the one that said i should've went to Tony, me asking why i thought was a reasonable question. The fact that you refuse to answer questions that relate to statements YOU have posted shows you post bs/misinformation on this board.
If i would've went to Tony, i wouldn't have save any money at all, i wouldn't have a higher flowing head, and doubt I'd be making more horsepower. Im very happy with my choice going with Dan.


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Old 02-16-2022, 10:07 AM
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You should have waited for Tony. PP ???
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Not answering Sb question. Its a sucker move. He asks many questions, his MO.

I do not know anything

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Answering my question is a sucker move?

You're the one that said i should've went to Tony, me asking why i thought was a reasonable question.

The fact that you refuse to answer questions that relate to statements YOU have posted shows you post bs/misinformation on this board.
Maybe Troy is really Q and he is dropping Q-bits for us all to run out a decipher what he means.

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Old 02-16-2022, 10:24 AM
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I can try to answer some of the questions posted, but many will simply never be able to answer. The Boss Bird ran 1/8 mile and quarter mile in competition mode. Depended on the event and track, insurance and rules at a given track. I can say 1/8 mile was much, much easier on the car and engine. Typically running just under 200 MPH. Boss Bird was a heavy car. We simply couldn't afford the lightweight components other teams with huge budgets could run. We ran a very heavy steel bellhousing, a very heavy all fiberglass body with side windows, a 15-16 gallon fuel tank, and a 4 gallon oil tank. All that stuff and more made it heavy, unfortunately. Eric can supply an actual accurate weight, but I think it was just under 2500 lbs. The Kauffman dragster, nobody knows what it weighs other than the Kauffmans. They have never publicly posted what that car weighs. Seems like it would be nearly impossible for it to be over 2000 lbs to me. Our 60' times were never super wonderful. Again, Eric can post post our best. 1.03 seconds is close. Our engine was designed from the ground up to run a high percentage of nitro. It was not a modified alcohol engine with a splash of nitro added. So no way to speculate how it would have run on alcohol. We only ran 34-36 lbs. of boost, not the 90-110 or more lbs of boost a good alcohol engine would run. Our compression ratio was 6.1:1. They are just 2 entirely different animals. It was a great adventure and hopefully someone else will go the nitro route in the future. The All Pontiac solid aluminum cast block can take it into the high 5's IMO. In a 300" rear engine dragster, possibly mid 5's. Just a guess. (Crazy head-spinning tidbit) We had a high gear failure on the car once. Tell-Tail electronic tachometer recorded an under load maximum RPM on the engine of 11,300! All internal components stayed attached. No major engine damage.

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