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Old 02-15-2022, 06:50 PM
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Who did you buy the rings from, opeliac, Marty years ago or Bob and Frank?

If you have directions, from Marty or Bob and Frank, you are good to go, otherwise I can ask Marty to send me the Machining Instructions and will post them here for you.

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Old 02-15-2022, 08:20 PM
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Who did you buy the rings from, opeliac, Marty years ago or Bob and Frank?

If you have directions, from Marty or Bob and Frank, you are good to go, otherwise I can ask Marty to send me the Machining Instructions and will post them here for you.

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I bought them from Bob and Frank...I had planned on having Butler do the machine work, but when I called today, the guy on the phone said they've never done any...So, I called Tony earlier, and I think i'm gonna run it up to BES next week...

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Old 02-16-2022, 08:05 PM
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Bill Ceralli Competition Engines in New Jersey did my Marty Rings

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Old 02-16-2022, 10:20 PM
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Bill Ceralli Competition Engines in New Jersey did my Marty Rings
Since you've ran them, what is your opinion? What engine are they on?

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Old 02-17-2022, 07:29 PM
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I haven't run them yet. Motor is being put together to run this year. Bill is assembling motor and doing machine work to it. The engine is an IA-II alum block that was made into a 4 cyl. with billet crank, billet Ram Air 5 Wilcox head and billet blower manifold. One of a kind

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Old 02-18-2022, 07:21 PM
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I haven't run them yet. Motor is being put together to run this year. Bill is assembling motor and doing machine work to it. The engine is an IA-II alum block that was made into a 4 cyl. with billet crank, billet Ram Air 5 Wilcox head and billet blower manifold. One of a kind
That sounds awesome you don’t have any pictures of it do you?

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Old 02-19-2022, 02:41 PM
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I got a billet timing cover that I bought from a PY member and used a SBC nascar water pump and reverse cooled it. Not sure if it was actually better but I did it anyways.

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Old 02-19-2022, 12:01 PM
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I bought them from Bob and Frank...I had planned on having Butler do the machine work, but when I called today, the guy on the phone said they've never done any...So, I called Tony earlier, and I think i'm gonna run it up to BES next week...
I would think BES could cut the groove with their Rottler F65 machine or similar. If you like to do everything yourself, I have a BHJ O-ring cutting tool and a Pontiac plate I could possibly send you with a deposit and you can cut them yourself. This is a hand operated tool, but accurate if your careful. +-.001". You would need to buy the correct size carbide insert to match the ring. But that's not expensive, Like $30-35.00. Let me know if you want to try that.

http://www.bhjproducts.com/bhj_conte...ooling/org.php

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Old 02-19-2022, 12:22 PM
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I would think BES could cut the groove with their Rottler F65 machine or similar. If you like to do everything yourself, I have a BHJ O-ring cutting tool and a Pontiac plate I could possibly send you with a deposit and you can cut them yourself. This is a hand operated tool, but accurate if your careful. +-.001". You would need to buy the correct size carbide insert to match the ring. But that's not expensive, Like $30-35.00. Let me know if you want to try that.

http://www.bhjproducts.com/bhj_conte...ooling/org.php
Dang, thanks for the offer...I've never used one of those, but I was reading about others that do...I may take you up on that offer...

I am also wondering why they dont put any sort of receiver groove in the head...Tom V explained the basics of the rings, and how they work, but it just seems like they'd be even better with a few thou receiver groove.

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Old 02-19-2022, 01:15 PM
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Dry deck and reverse cool. I only had it to 15 psi on the dyno.

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Old 02-19-2022, 02:12 PM
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Dry deck and reverse cool. I only had it to 15 psi on the dyno.
How did you do the reverse cool?

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