[thews]

Originally Posted by necdb3

I own a 69 T/A auto and a 69 400 4spd firebird conv. Both cars came with 62 heads from the factory.

I find it very curious that your 4 speed car has #62's (like my 400 did). I've seen a lot of cars in junkyards back in the 80's. Back then you'd see GTO's in Pick-A-Part. Every head was about $50, fender was $25 and the hoods were about $30 (still have a couple). The 69 GTO's were far more plentiful than the Firebirds. The 4-speed GTO's almost all had #48's. The 70's GTO's were always #12 for the stick and #13 for the automatics. My 69 350 HO 4-speed engine has #48's, but all the 350 HO's did. It's interesting why the 4-speed 69 Firebird 400's got the #62's?

[necdb3]

Originally Posted by thews

I find it very curious that your 4 speed car has #62's (like my 400 did). I've seen a lot of cars in junkyards back in the 80's. Back then you'd see GTO's in Pick-A-Part. Every head was about $50, fender was $25 and the hoods were about $30 (still have a couple). The 69 GTO's were far more plentiful than the Firebirds. The 4-speed GTO's almost all had #48's. The 70's GTO's were always #12 for the stick and #13 for the automatics. My 69 350 HO 4-speed engine has #48's, but all the 350 HO's did. It's interesting why the 4-speed 69 Firebird 400's got the #62's?

A 69 firebird 400 firebird 4spd had 62 heads unless it was a RAMIII, then it had 48's. I believe there is merit to the conversation with the 067 vs. 068 cam following the heads. I have the 400 bird apart now, the original cam is a 067. Being the heads are so similar, the cam change would be enough to make a difference when ordering the RAMIII option. What doesn't make sense is, The 69 T/A's had RAMIII standard. How is the 62 head with 067 cam considered RAMIII?

[thews]

Originally Posted by necdb3

A 69 firebird 400 firebird 4spd had 62 heads unless it was a RAMIII, then it had 48's. I believe there is merit to the conversation with the 067 vs. 068 cam following the heads. I have the 400 bird apart now, the original cam is a 067. Being the heads are so similar, the cam change would be enough to make a difference when ordering the RAMIII option. What doesn't make sense is, The 69 T/A's had RAMIII standard. How is the 62 head with 067 cam considered RAMIII?

Good question. From what I've read about the non-Ram Air 69 GTO's, the automatics had the 067 cam and #62's and the 4-speeds had the 068 and #48's. I've also read the 60 GTO automatics also had #16's, but in my junkyard combing days experiences, I think the automatics all had #62's.