[Nobuddy]

Originally Posted by GoreMaker

There's farm subsidies for growing corn that gets used for ethanol. From research over the years, ethanol corn wouldn't be profitable to grow without those subsidies. So because of those subsidies (which are entirely funded through taxes) farmers grow that instead of actual food.

But that's neither here nor there. That's a completely different discussion.

It is a different discussion so probably best you not add more misinformation based on popular legend.

There are no subsidies to farmers for growing corn for ethanol. Virtually all US farmers receive some federal subsidies for almost every crop grown. But there is no difference in subsidies a farmer gets selling their corn for food compared to selling to an ethanol plant. The additional demand from the sustainable fuel mandates certainly raises the total demand and the commodity price for corn.

Full disclosure, I am a farmer although no corn.

[Formulabruce]

Originally Posted by Nobuddy

It is a different discussion so probably best you not add more misinformation based on popular legend.

There are no subsidies to farmers for growing corn for ethanol. Virtually all US farmers receive some federal subsidies for almost every crop grown. But there is no difference in subsidies a farmer gets selling their corn for food compared to selling to an ethanol plant. The additional demand from the sustainable fuel mandates certainly raises the total demand and the commodity price for corn.

Full disclosure, I am a farmer although no corn.

I have relatives that grow Corn Exclusively. Yes, in fact they Do get Federal subsidies to grow corn. This covers a few things which could be used for other types of farming, but It IS in fact Subsidized. 100% of this corn is sold to Ethanol plants. Subsidies make it worth Farming. I suspect they will go up as the cost if Nitrogen does.

[Jay S]

There is a .45 cent per one gallon tax credit for fuel blenders to blend ethanol with gasoline. There are no direct subsidies to farmer’s to grow corn for ethanol any more than there is to grow anything else. The reason corn gets planted and used for ethanol is do to the demand from the RFS.
Here a list of all the specific federal energy subsidies.
https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/laws/ETH?state=US

Run what ever fuel your car likes. I have never seen a disadvantage to running 93 octane over 91 octane. If it is with in the budget, and can buy it local, i definitely suggest using 93. Should be no problem dropping back 91 if need be for part throttle cruising until you can get back to your local 93. IMHO. 93 straight gasoline is a better fuel than any of the lower octane fuel no matter what the mix. Especially for guys who’s car sits more than it gets driven.