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Old 08-15-2022, 03:46 AM
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Sweet, looking great.

BTW ... I was trying to polish two different rear rocker extensions that came off two different cars from different factories. One just would not polish, just like you describe, and the pits were there .. it just wouldn't loose a slight "satin" look. The other one polished fine.

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Old 08-16-2022, 09:15 AM
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Car is looking fantastic !!

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Old 08-17-2022, 06:09 PM
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I was admiring your speaker installation, and as I'm doing some work in my trunk ('72 Lemans), I've pulled the conv top well liner up and ... there are some speakers, but they don't look original. The speaker holes for 6x9s are factory holes there.

While looking around the web, I came across this thread from the Chevelle (yuk) site, and it is discussed that the speakers were mounted "inside" the liner so they can be heard with the top up ... REALLY? With the boot stuffed down there they must be muffled, but the functionality would definitely be better inside the liner.

Just an interesting thought for discussion.

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Old 08-18-2022, 01:56 PM
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Sweet, looking great.
BTW ... I was trying to polish two different rear rocker extensions that came off two different cars from different factories. One just would not polish, just like you describe, and the pits were there .. it just wouldn't loose a slight "satin" look. The other one polished fine.
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I am wondering now if the pits aren't porosity but rather spots getting pulled out because of the heat generated when polishing. Since they don't seem to respond when you have them on the wheel, the feeling is to press the piece harder into it and of course that generates more heat then when polishing other trim pieces that do respond normally. I don't know though, this was just a thought.
Interesting to see this car come up on BaT this week that shows the restorer couldn't polish out the w/s post stainless trim either. Look at photo # 31 & 36
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-pontiac-gto-13/

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Car is looking fantastic !!
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I was admiring your speaker installation, and as I'm doing some work in my trunk ('72 Lemans), I've pulled the conv top well liner up and ... there are some speakers, but they don't look original. The speaker holes for 6x9s are factory holes there.
While looking around the web, I came across this thread from the Chevelle (yuk) site, and it is discussed that the speakers were mounted "inside" the liner so they can be heard with the top up ... REALLY? With the boot stuffed down there they must be muffled, but the functionality would definitely be better inside the liner.
Just an interesting thought for discussion.
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Thanks.
I had seen that thread before. They are talking about putting speakers on the inside of the side panels facing out not in the factory locations. If you look again, you can see the perforations on the side panel that allow sound to pass through.
He said that they are 5 1/4" speakers. Without being enclosed from behind, I wouldn't expect it would sound great but the highs should get through.
With the 3-way 6X9 speakers I have mounted in the factory holes I know I'm going to lose the highs but the lower frequencies should be OK. With the top down, I'm not sure I care much how the music sounds.

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Old 08-18-2022, 03:25 PM
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Actually talking about the rear speakers (facing rear), and not the rear ones in the arm rests (panels) w/holes.

Post #10 in the referenced website, shows the speaker cover installed "inside" the liner. It appears that a hole was cut in the liner to make the speaker output in the liner, rather than to the outside of the liner. He says it was factory installation inside the liner.

As I said, I don't know, but I can see a "slight" advantage to doing that way.

Just thinking out loud to get ready for my speakers/liner install.

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Old 08-18-2022, 03:37 PM
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Actually talking about the rear speakers (facing rear), and not the rear ones in the arm rests (panels) w/holes.
Post #10 in the referenced website, shows the speaker cover installed "inside" the liner. It appears that a hole was cut in the liner to make the speaker output in the liner, rather than to the outside of the liner. He says it was factory installation inside the liner.
As I said, I don't know, but I can see a "slight" advantage to doing that way.
Just thinking out loud to get ready for my speakers/liner install.
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I figured I would have the guy who is going to install the top install the liner too. I was intending on removing the speaker grilles I made and have him cut holes in the liner for the speakers and re-install the covers over the cut edges on the liner.
Does that sound like a good plan to you?

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Old 08-18-2022, 04:03 PM
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Does that sound like a good plan to you?
After I read through that chevelle thread, it struck me that the sound going "into" the liner, vs. "at" the liner, would definitely get better sound to the compartment with the top up. But I had never thought about that. My only negative thought was that the top boot being stuffed in the liner (with the top up) would muffle some of the sound anyway.

Just thought I would bring the subject up, and see if anybody here has their 'Vert rear speakers mounted that way. Mine are not, but I'm pretty sure my liner has been replaced before. My speakers are actually a MESS (not original), so I will have more work to do, and I might be tempted to cut the liner for speaker installation.

Very minor point ... your work is still the best I've seen Roger. I keep coming back to your thread.

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I think you should do the top installation. With your eye on details the end result I'm sure would be excellent. Many posts on this site showing owner installed tops and it's amazing how well they come out compared to some of the "Professional" installations I've seen with saggy, wrinkled sail panels.
Besides, if you do the install, we'd all have another great resource added to this awesome thread!

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Old 08-21-2022, 12:10 PM
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I think you should do the top installation. With your eye on details the end result I'm sure would be excellent. Many posts on this site showing owner installed tops and it's amazing how well they come out compared to some of the "Professional" installations I've seen with saggy, wrinkled sail panels.
Besides, if you do the install, we'd all have another great resource added to this awesome thread!
Thanks for the vote of confidence but this is something I wouldn't enjoy doing at all and feel I'd rather leave it to a pro. And the pro I use is the best of the best and a perfectionist.
I did install the top on my '69 Corvette with my wife's help and we did a nice job on it. But we both didn't enjoy it at all and I'm sure the GTO top is harder to do than that one was.

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