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Old 10-22-2022, 02:17 PM
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Pontiac did quite well in their NASCAR days. No more racing. Chevrolet didn't have an answer for the GTO until 1965, when they rolled out 201 specially built Chevelles. Corvette got it's 3x2 after corporate killed Tripower. No big block Camaros (they had the "big" 350) until the Firebird 400. While Pontiac was selling SD455s, Chevy dropped the Z28 - didn't bring it back until 77. 3rd gen Firehawk. 89 Turbo TransAm. Pontiac's work with SLP on 4th gens didn't go unnoticed, Chevy pulled a mE ToO and revived it's Camaro SS. GTO and G8, Chevy actually poached the Holden deal.

Five decades of being forced to respond.

The Camaro and Firebird debuted the same year. I had a 67 factory 396 4 Speed. I would hardly say Chevy was forced to respond to the 400 Firebird.

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Old 10-22-2022, 05:39 PM
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The Camaro and Firebird debuted the same year. I had a 67 factory 396 4 Speed. I would hardly say Chevy was forced to respond to the 400 Firebird.
Got a build date?

Camaros went on sale September 29, 1966.
Firebirds went on sale February 23, 1967.

Five whole months. Five. It's no coincidence the 396 finally appeared when it did.

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Old 10-22-2022, 05:54 PM
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Every GTO I had was faster than my Chevelle with a 396. It was a turd but I fell into the hype from all of my friends about how superior a big block Chevy was to a Pontiac. To me, it always seemed that Pontiac was a step ahead of Chevrolet. The cars looked cooler, handled better and felt more powerful.

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Old 10-22-2022, 07:16 PM
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On a Pontiac forum, The Pontiacs are always superior. No argument from me. I will say senior year in HS, I had my 70 TA and a good friend had a 70 Z28. We street raced those cars almost every day for a year. TA was a 4-speed, Z28 was an auto trans. Who ever got the jump and some traction would win the race. They were virtually identical as drag racers. Of course I much preferred my Pontiac, but the Z28 was no slouch. It would shift in drive from gear to gear between 6800-7000 RPM. Lots of RPM, not much torque, and a cheap interior. All the things Chevy was famous for.

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Old 10-26-2022, 11:09 AM
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Anybody going to go to Mexico to look for 1G2ZA5EB5A4166962?
I've seen worse cars revived.
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