[72projectbird]

Originally Posted by Vroom_vroom

Say what you will but I don’t think you understand how bad this original post makes you look.


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Because trying to guilt trip/bully people into giving money has worked out so well for other companies who've attempted the same thing.

[mzbk2l]

Originally Posted by 72projectbird

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Because trying to guilt trip/bully people into giving money has worked out so well for other companies who've attempted the same thing.

To be fair, the company did not guilt trip or bully anyone; they noted that donations could help and didn't push any further than that.

Some members, on the other hand, are pushing a little harder than that. I agree it's not a good look, but that's not on the forum owners.

[Elarson]

Originally Posted by mzbk2l

To be fair, the company did not guilt trip or bully anyone; they noted that donations could help and didn't push any further than that.

Some members, on the other hand, are pushing a little harder than that. I agree it's not a good look, but that's not on the forum owners.

Deserving of emphasis.

I donated because I appreciate the site and all it's done for me. Pressure tactics by other (well meaning) members had no effect on my decision.

Eric

[necdb3]

Originally Posted by Elarson

Deserving of emphasis.

I donated because I appreciate the site and all it's done for me. Pressure tactics by other (well meaning) members had no effect on my decision.

Eric

I couldn't agree more!!! I don't view PY as pressuring anyone, they are an outstanding tool that we all have taken advantage of through the years both in info and friendships, however, I don't think members should be pressuring anyone either. I think it's tasteless. That doesn't entice anyone to donate. We should donate because we see the value of this site and for no other reason.

[ScumOne]

Personally, I never donated before, mostly cuz I never saw a link. As soon as I did, I donated $60. I figure this place has kept me from making $1000's of dollars of mistakes, so donating $5 per month seems reasonable to me.

I'm sure the mods and web guys don't get a whole hell of a lot of $$ for doing this important work. My site has been pretty much the same for 12 years, but I still have maintenance fees for scripts, certificates, backups of date, yada yada. I guarantee. you I don't have immense knowledge available compared to this site.

If you felt pressured, ok, it wasn't the owners. But if a member pressures you, I'm sure it's more of a "Support your already expensive hobby in a forum that gives so much back to you." angle.

Maybe you've been a free loader for years (like I was), but IMO, it's time for people who enjoy, use and benefit from sales here to ante up.

I've sold about $1000 over the years from this site, my 5-6% donation of those sales seemed fair. And I'm going to continue to donate $5 a month until I'm no longer a member here.

[72projectbird]

Originally Posted by ScumOne

Maybe you've been a free loader for years (like I was), but IMO, it's time for people who enjoy, use and benefit from sales here to ante up.

So the invaluable information that the members share, that makes this site what it is, are freeloaders unless they donate?

[68 Firebird]

Donated!!!!
thanks for all the knowledge shared over the years

Gerry

[ScumOne]

Originally Posted by 72projectbird

So the invaluable information that the members share, that makes this site what it is, are freeloaders unless they donate?

It's kind of hard to track that, don't you think? I do.

[72projectbird]

Originally Posted by mzbk2l

To be fair, the company did not guilt trip or bully anyone; they noted that donations could help and didn't push any further than that.

Some members, on the other hand, are pushing a little harder than that. I agree it's not a good look, but that's not on the forum owners.

I know, the owners have handled it very well. I have no problem donating, so I dont want anyone to take what I say the wrong way.

It's those trying to force the donations I have an issue with.

[nas t eh]

Originally Posted by 72projectbird

I know, the owners have handled it very well. I have no problem donating, so I dont want anyone to take what I say the wrong way.

It's those trying to force the donations I have an issue with.

I see this a little differently, I likely have this wrong but to me it looked like Ames bought the site, changed the name, became the majority advertiser and excluded their competitors from advertising here .

Maybe tire companies and suspension companies as well as Ames' direct competition or anyone else does not want to advertise here, I don't know.

But if I was in charge at Ames and my site was asking for donations from customers I would be embarrassed

So I don't think Ames has handled this well at all.