[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Like I said he's a bad dude but I'm not seeing 8s anywhere like you said.

slowbird, I am simply thinking out loud , trying to figure who has done it. It has been done, iron heads in the 8s.
Might have taken a light car, so what. The Butlers had some guy do it years ago with D ports;
Dan had a guy who could run 8.90s with his RAIVs a long time ago too.
But for some reason you want me to admit I am wrong.

Jim has been 9.39 with 96s. That a pump gas head.
8s are possible with smaller chamber, more CR and lighten the car up. Or real close to it.

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

slowbird, I am simply thinking out loud , trying to figure who has done it. It has been done, iron heads in the 8s.
Might have taken a light car, so what. The Butlers had some guy do it years ago with D ports;
Dan had a guy who could run 8.90s with his RAIVs a long time ago too.
But for some reason you want me to admit I am wrong.

Jim has been 9.39 with 96s. That a pump gas head.
8s are possible with smaller chamber, more CR and lighten the car up. Or real close to it.

You are wrong, you said Jim has ran 8s, he hasn't. I agree iron heads can go 8s, heck Marty ran 7s and so has Jim Y but that's not what you said.
Jim's 9.39 was not on pump gas and was not low compression. You need to check your "facts" better.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

How many other guys run a 8 second NA Pontiac with D ports ?

You indirectly implied Jim ran 8's in the quarter mile.

Originally Posted by Dragncar

I am thinking about a thread or post from not too long ago.


He did do the 320cfm pair of 48s that made 871 HP. Not sure if it had any power adder but you would think it could have.

You backed up your false statement, but implied maybe it was 8's with a power adder. Also blaming your incorrect post on brain fog.

Originally Posted by Dragncar

slowbird, I am simply thinking out loud , trying to figure who has done it. It has been done, iron heads in the 8s.

Now you say you never made an incorrect statement, because once somebody does run eights your false statement will become factual.

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Might have taken a light car, so what. The Butlers had some guy do it years ago with D ports;

Dan had a guy who could run 8.90s with his RAIVs a long time ago too..

Now your saying other guys (but not the guy you said) ran in the eights, so your false statement should really be considered accurate.... even though it was false.

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Jim has been 9.39 with 96s. That a pump gas head.
8s are possible with smaller chamber, more CR and lighten the car up. Or real close to it.

Now you are fantasizing about what someone else should do so you don't have to own the false post you made.

Originally Posted by Dragncar

But for some reason you want me to admit I am wrong.

^^^ THIS! Wouldn't it just be easier to own that you were wrong about Jim running eights.... Then you could apply all that waisted time towards getting your Hot Rod running so you don't miss another season of racing.... Just saying.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

You indirectly implied Jim ran 8's in the quarter mile.



You backed up your false statement, but implied maybe it was 8's with a power adder. Also blaming your incorrect post on brain fog.



Now you say you never made an incorrect statement, because once somebody does run eights your false statement will become factual.




Now your saying other guys (but not the guy you said) ran in the eights, so your false statement should really be considered accurate.... even though it was false.




Now you are fantasizing about what someone else should do so you don't have to own the false post you made.



^^^ THIS! Wouldn't it just be easier to own that you were wrong about Jim running eights.... Then you could apply all that waisted time towards getting your Hot Rod running so you don't miss another season of racing.... Just saying.

You mad bro ?

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

You mad bro ?

No Sir. Just trying to keep PY from turning into PZ. Also don't mind giving you tips on time management. That's what this site is for. Pontiac folks helping Pontiac folks.

Hope you get the Hot Rod done. Two missed season's is a percentage of time lost.

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

slowbird, I am simply thinking out loud , trying to figure who has done it. It has been done, iron heads in the 8s.
Might have taken a light car, so what. The Butlers had some guy do it years ago with D ports;
Dan had a guy who could run 8.90s with his RAIVs a long time ago too.
But for some reason you want me to admit I am wrong.

Jim has been 9.39 with 96s. That a pump gas head.
8s are possible with smaller chamber, more CR and lighten the car up. Or real close to it.

Fact # 1: The Butlers DID have a guy who could give you a 262-265 cfm head (head after head). With that 265 cfm head the Butlers could run very good times (for that period), BUT THE BUTLERS ALSO RAN HIDDEN NOS ON THEIR ENGINES. So the Rodney/David Butler 265 cfm heads that ran in the 8s ran there because of several reasons. Spray, light weight, good cast iron heads, lots of track time.

Fact #2: The man has since passed on (years ago).

Aluminum Heads from Edelbrock was Jim Butler's solution to not having the cast iron employee's porting skills available.

Tom V.