[pont3]

Originally Posted by misterp266

Since we’ve digressed to talking about cordless tool instead of EVs, my biggest issue is having to stick to one brand unless you want to invest in multiple battery styles and chargers. I ended up with Ryobi which I’ve had good luck with for hand tools.
I still use gas for my push mower and my snow blower. Seems foolish to change. Been lucky with snow so far.

As for EVs, they have a place but I don’t understand making a truck, which is supposed to be a work vehicle, that is so limited. Take a few years and make it worth buying. The more they are pushed upon us, the more the pushback will be.

“Freedom of choice
Is what you got
Freedom of choice!
Then if you got it you don't want it
Seems to be the rule of thumb
Don't be tricked by what you see
You got two ways to go

I'll say it again in the land of the free
Use your freedom of choice
Freedom of choice“

Devo

And I'll say this again. The goal of the EVs was to purposefully create high priced vehicles so that the lesser people would eventually follow the TRENDS of the RICH folks. Remember when even the lowest earners aspired to own a Cadillac, or Lexus, or Mercedes?

These electric vehicle efforts will affect the climate not by ONE iota. But the TRENDS that were "hopefully" created by some new-fangled vehicle would drive people to WANT the latest creation.

I'm not a marketing expert, but I have studied marketing. The first thing you do is "create a need", then focus on convincing people on WHY they need this. In this particular case, it started out (falsely) as saving the planet. From there it evolved into boasting about how fast these flamethrowers accelerate, while at the same time ignoring the negative reports.

I haven't been inside any EV other than the Tesla Model 3, and I can tell you that if you were impressed with the interior of a 2002 Cavalier, then you will be impressed with that Tesla.

[Tom Vaught]

Back on EVs vs tools and other toys.

Originally Posted by pont3

And I'll say this again. The goal of the EVs was to purposefully create high priced vehicles so that the lesser people would eventually follow the TRENDS of the RICH folks. Remember when even the lowest earners aspired to own a Cadillac, or Lexus, or Mercedes?

In many small towns I have visited, it is exactly as you have posted as far as the "One-UP the Neighbors". Example: owning a Lexus in Emporia, Kansas.

A regular F-150 Lightning is $50,000+ these days.
Honestly, how many people can afford to purchase a $50,000 to $80,000
vehicle these days who have a regular job?

Ford quoted a price for the Electric vehicle initially at $39,974 to purchase
(May 2021). The commercial version is over $55,000 now.
They also have sold less than 20,000 vehicles.

Again I would not worry to much about EV vehicles in the next 15 years.

How many VOLTs did GM sell????

Tom V.

[scott70]

The price of a EV doesnt factor in to alot of peoples decisions on whether to own a EV or not. They dont want to buy one because they dont want one. I dont believe theres alot of people pining for a EV and the only thing holding them back is the price. Most people if they want a EV that they will go buy one. As far as EV trucks go there arent to many success stories when it comes to an actual real life working truck. Even the EV lovers admit that.

[kingbuzzo]

100% Driving my canyonaro until the end... 🙄

[kingbuzzo]

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/09/05/...ai-technology/

[kingbuzzo]

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/05/21/...the-ev-market/