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A thorough application of belt dressing compound will help as well.

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Going with a wider belt helped my squeal problem. Dayco 17XXX, 17 is width in mm, x would be length in inches, so a 49.5" belt would be 17495. a 50" belt would be 17500 and so on. Most parts stores call for a 15mm width which is too narrow on some applications

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Going with a wider belt helped my squeal problem. Dayco 17XXX, 17 is width in mm, x would be length in inches, so a 49.5" belt would be 17495. a 50" belt would be 17500 and so on. Most parts stores call for a 15mm width which is too narrow on some applications

And we have a winner! I ran into the same issue with my car's PS belt, I have CFV billet pulleys installed and once I sourced the wider belts no more issues. Mine would squeal at high rpm only but a faint smell of burning rubber was present as well.

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I can’t find a 17mm belt local anywhere. My nephew is the store manager of Advance in my town and he has a cross number to the one I have but the warehouse is out of stock. Where are you guys finding them.

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Amazon usually, eBay if cheaper

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I can’t find a 17mm belt local anywhere. My nephew is the store manager of Advance in my town and he has a cross number to the one I have but the warehouse is out of stock. Where are you guys finding them.
Buy one slightly shorter or slightly longer.

Advance carries Dayco, and usually can have them in very short time if not in stock.

What part number and brand are you trying to cross?



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A thorough application of belt dressing compound will help as well.
I'm gonna disagree.

There are multiple kinds of "belt dressing" ranging from various petroleum-based lubes to Neoprene liquefied in a solvent. Typical "belt dressing" is a great way to contaminate the rubber/fabric of the belt. The belt doesn't squeal because it's been lubricated, but it's still slipping, still running hot at the interface between belt and pulley, still damaging the belt and wearing the pulley. In MY driveway, a belt that had belt-dressing goes in the dumpster, I clean the pulleys, and start with a new belt.

If the belt squeals, it's slipping. Find out WHY the belt is slipping, and fix it. Don't cover-up the slippage with chemicals.

Tension is the final part of solving belt squeal. Before the tension, you need pulley alignment, (it's a 3-D world--pulleys have to be aligned in three dimensions) pulley condition (I've seen pulleys that were worn to a "U" shape instead of a "V" shape, the steel doesn't have a paint layer in the belt groove, etc.) correct belt width and length, proper PS pump pressure (if the pump pressure relief is stuck, pressure goes out-of-sight and no belt will have traction on the pulley to prevent squeal.)

The FIRST thing I'd do is to determine that you have belt squeal, not pump whine or failing bearings in the pump. Use a squirt-bottle to spray the belt with WATER, if the noise goes away it's belt squeal. Water evaporates, doesn't contaminate the belt.

If the noise doesn't go away, it's a pump problem--bearings, excessive pressure, or foaming fluid/aeration.


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I'm gonna disagree.

There are multiple kinds of "belt dressing" ranging from various petroleum-based lubes to Neoprene liquefied in a solvent. Typical "belt dressing" is a great way to contaminate the rubber/fabric of the belt. The belt doesn't squeal because it's been lubricated, but it's still slipping, still running hot at the interface between belt and pulley, still damaging the belt and wearing the pulley. In MY driveway, a belt that had belt-dressing goes in the dumpster, I clean the pulleys, and start with a new belt.

If the belt squeals, it's slipping. Find out WHY the belt is slipping, and fix it. Don't cover-up the slippage with chemicals.

Tension is the final part of solving belt squeal. Before the tension, you need pulley alignment, (it's a 3-D world--pulleys have to be aligned in three dimensions) pulley condition (I've seen pulleys that were worn to a "U" shape instead of a "V" shape, the steel doesn't have a paint layer in the belt groove, etc.) correct belt width and length, proper PS pump pressure (if the pump pressure relief is stuck, pressure goes out-of-sight and no belt will have traction on the pulley to prevent squeal.)

The FIRST thing I'd do is to determine that you have belt squeal, not pump whine or failing bearings in the pump. Use a squirt-bottle to spray the belt with WATER, if the noise goes away it's belt squeal. Water evaporates, doesn't contaminate the belt.

If the noise doesn't go away, it's a pump problem--bearings, excessive pressure, or foaming fluid/aeration.

It doesn’t squeal at idle. It squeals on initial fire up and between shifts when the rpm’s rise as well as if I push the pedal too hard (hydroboost) or turn tight at low speed.

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