#1  
Old 06-16-2023, 05:39 PM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 3,071
Default Small Digital tachometer

I’m looking for a tachometer for my LeMans. I don’t want a big honking round tach on my steering column like on my GTO, just a little digital tach I can mount somewhere fir when I want to check RPM. It doesn’t have to look stock, stealth, or pretty, just functional.
Now surprisingly a search at Summit shows almost nothing, just your basic old school large round tachs, or modern mount in the dash ones.
I was thinking something along the lines of this, but just a tach, and better quality. Anyone here have any ideas?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/29465359672...3ABFBM0Ivy4Zhi

__________________

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
‘55 Catalina
‘62 Mercury Meteor-all original, bought new by my grandfather
71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.-now my sons ride
  #2  
Old 06-16-2023, 11:22 PM
RocktimusPryme's Avatar
RocktimusPryme RocktimusPryme is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Bedford, IN
Posts: 2,593
Default

I like this little guy. I almost bought one for my Firebird before I switched to Fuel Injection. I think its essentially the size of the shift light that would go onto a Monster Tach.

https://www.glowshiftdirect.com/silv...h-shift-light/

Autometer makes a similar one if you want to pay more and maybe get better quality. Summit used to but they discontinued it.

Getting all my gauges on one little box was actually a motivating factor in going to injection for me. I think there would be a market for just a Terminator style Led screen that you could plumb electric sensors into. I know Holley has the big digital dash, which is cool, but is a hefty priced item.

__________________
1967 Firebird 462 580hp/590ftlbs
1962 Pontiac Catalina Safari Swapped in Turd of an Olds 455
Owner/Creator Catfish Motorsports
https://www.youtube.com/@CatfishMotorsports
  #3  
Old 06-17-2023, 07:30 AM
Radman's Avatar
Radman Radman is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Tippecanoe, OH
Posts: 794
Default

You did not mention the year. This is a 63 LeMans cluster that I put a tach in the blank spot where the clock would go. You may be able to do something similar.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	guages everything in front.jpg
Views:	243
Size:	66.4 KB
ID:	614351  

__________________
If you built it, drive it.
red 62 Tempest total stock restoration.
white 62 Tempest modified, 61 389 Tri-Power, and a conventional drive train.
  #4  
Old 06-17-2023, 02:24 PM
Half-Inch Stud's Avatar
Half-Inch Stud Half-Inch Stud is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: BlueBell, PA or AL U.S.A.
Posts: 18,889
Default

Bosch makes a ~2" Tach that is accurate. I used the guts to drive a Stock 68 Tach. You could buy from Advanced auto Zone or Harbor freight and use as-is.

  #5  
Old 06-18-2023, 06:35 PM
SD455DJ SD455DJ is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 3,649
Default

I bought the small AutoGage (AutoMeter cheap line) 8k tach, 2-3/4" diameter. Works really well from what I can tell and seems pretty accurate. I also bought the trio gauge set that is all electric and small too.

Dennis
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20210702_081453.jpg
Views:	209
Size:	48.5 KB
ID:	614411   Click image for larger version

Name:	20210702_081444.jpg
Views:	193
Size:	41.9 KB
ID:	614412  

  #6  
Old 06-18-2023, 09:07 PM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 3,071
Default

Thanks for the opinions guys. I was looking for a digital, like Rocktimus Prime posted though.

__________________

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
‘55 Catalina
‘62 Mercury Meteor-all original, bought new by my grandfather
71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.-now my sons ride
  #7  
Old 06-18-2023, 11:37 PM
Nobuddy Nobuddy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 141
Default

Not the prettiest solution but the inductive Tiny Tach will work.

https://tinytach.com/tinytach

  #8  
Old 06-19-2023, 05:36 PM
VCho455's Avatar
VCho455 VCho455 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: PDX OR
Posts: 539
Default

Autometer shift light with tach.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atm-5348

Or take a look motorcycle tachometers.

https://www.revzilla.com/dirt-bike/t...sku_id=1593941

__________________
If it breaks. I didn't want it in the first place.
_____________________________________________
69 GTO \ 72 FIREBIRD \ 1/2 OF A 64 GTO \ 70 JAVELIN \ 52 FORD PU \ 51 GMC PU \ 29 FORD PU \ 85 ALFA ROMEO SPYDER \ A HANDFUL OF ODD DUCATI'S \ 88 S10 LT1 BLAZER & MY DAILY DRIVER 67 SUBURBAN.
  #9  
Old 06-19-2023, 05:49 PM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 3,071
Default

Thanks guys. I ordered one like Rocktimus posted , but in black.

__________________

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
‘55 Catalina
‘62 Mercury Meteor-all original, bought new by my grandfather
71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.-now my sons ride
  #10  
Old 10-02-2023, 07:35 PM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 3,071
Default

Another update. I mounted the Glowshift digital tach in my LeMans and love it.
So I ordered one for my GTO to replace the non functional mini tach that’s in there. I got it installed and it was reading about double the actual RPM. I talked to Glowshift tech and they recommended an electronic “filter” be wired in. Not that expensive, about $9, but of course had to wait for it to arrive. I installed it and absolutely no change. It still reads double the RPM. Apparently this tach doesn’t like breaker point ignition, which my GTO has. Now shipping back for a refund. Works great on my LeMans with electronic ignition.

__________________

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
‘55 Catalina
‘62 Mercury Meteor-all original, bought new by my grandfather
71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.-now my sons ride
  #11  
Old 10-03-2023, 08:12 AM
Radman's Avatar
Radman Radman is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Tippecanoe, OH
Posts: 794
Default

My first thought was the tach is setup for a 4 cylinder. Then I wonder if you have a dual point distributor in the GTO.

__________________
If you built it, drive it.
red 62 Tempest total stock restoration.
white 62 Tempest modified, 61 389 Tri-Power, and a conventional drive train.
  #12  
Old 10-03-2023, 11:15 AM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 3,071
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Radman View Post
My first thought was the tach is setup for a 4 cylinder. Then I wonder if you have a dual point distributor in the GTO.
I tried the switch on 4,6, and 8 cylinder settings. No change. No dual point, it’s the original distributor.
It’s always possible the distributor is defective, but if their own tech guy says “it looks like it just doesn’t work on your car”, then I’m done with it.

__________________

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
‘55 Catalina
‘62 Mercury Meteor-all original, bought new by my grandfather
71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.-now my sons ride
  #13  
Old 10-04-2023, 03:22 PM
glenn911's Avatar
glenn911 glenn911 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 78
Default

I put one of those tinytac on my tractor it lasted a few months. I contacted the seller, he sent me another one, it dies within a year. There is a battery in there you can't replace I believe.

  #14  
Old 06-21-2025, 03:30 PM
joes455 joes455 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: North Fla
Posts: 1,046
Default

I'm having the same issue,installed tach without filter and with and still reads 3300 at idle inwhich is only 1200 on my original tach.Im using a mds red coil hooked up to negative side.Anyone got any ideas why?

__________________
76 T/A 455, cnc chamber E heads,OF hyd roller ,yella terra shaft rockers 11.47 119
  #15  
Old 06-21-2025, 03:33 PM
joes455 joes455 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: North Fla
Posts: 1,046
Default

Oh forgot to add ,my hei control module is also msd circuit board design.The original in dash tach works perfect

__________________
76 T/A 455, cnc chamber E heads,OF hyd roller ,yella terra shaft rockers 11.47 119
  #16  
Old 06-21-2025, 05:42 PM
joes455 joes455 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: North Fla
Posts: 1,046
Default

Msd module is a 8364 old style

__________________
76 T/A 455, cnc chamber E heads,OF hyd roller ,yella terra shaft rockers 11.47 119
  #17  
Old 06-21-2025, 06:13 PM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 3,071
Default

“I'm having the same issue,installed tach without filter and with and still reads 3300 at idle inwhich is only 1200 on my original tach.Im using a mds red coil hooked up to negative side.Anyone got any ideas why?”


I don’t know, but here’s an update to my update!
The Pertronix in my LeMans was giving me issues, so I went back to breaker points on the LeMans also. Guess what-the tach now reads double just like it was on my GTO!

__________________

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
‘55 Catalina
‘62 Mercury Meteor-all original, bought new by my grandfather
71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.-now my sons ride
  #18  
Old 06-21-2025, 07:40 PM
Radman's Avatar
Radman Radman is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Tippecanoe, OH
Posts: 794
Default

Did you use the gray wire from the msd to drive the tach?

__________________
If you built it, drive it.
red 62 Tempest total stock restoration.
white 62 Tempest modified, 61 389 Tri-Power, and a conventional drive train.
  #19  
Old 06-21-2025, 10:15 PM
joes455 joes455 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: North Fla
Posts: 1,046
Default

What gray wire?

__________________
76 T/A 455, cnc chamber E heads,OF hyd roller ,yella terra shaft rockers 11.47 119
  #20  
Old 06-22-2025, 08:17 AM
Radman's Avatar
Radman Radman is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Tippecanoe, OH
Posts: 794
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joes455 View Post
What gray wire?
I googled the msd manual for the unit you said you have. There should be a gray wire at the bottom of the distributor to feed the tach. The 6N and 6Al have the same gray wire at the control box.

__________________
If you built it, drive it.
red 62 Tempest total stock restoration.
white 62 Tempest modified, 61 389 Tri-Power, and a conventional drive train.
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:27 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017