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Old 01-30-2024, 04:53 PM
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"Why did the Top Compression ring Break into uneven parts anyway, on about 5 combos of Piston and Ring sets?
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Molly face rings need to be installed very carefully, so as not to scratch their face or the cylinder wall finish. A smooth finish must be what’s needed for such a ring face.

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Does that mean that after Boring or simply Honing, one would "not" cross hatch the cyl. wall?

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Old 01-30-2024, 05:15 PM
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I think the rings broke when you knocked the pistons out and the top ridge on the cylinders was a little to big. The rings grabbed on the edge of it. Sometimes you have to use a ridge reamer when possibly reusing the same pistons.

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I think the rings broke when you knocked the pistons out and the top ridge on the cylinders was a little to big. The rings grabbed on the edge of it. Sometimes you have to use a ridge reamer when possibly reusing the same pistons.
I completely agree that the ridge is likely the cause of the broken rings.

To my way of thinking, a ridge-reamer is a tool for destroying cylinder walls. It's really easy to get too aggressive and carve too deeply. In my world, the pistons get knocked-out and thrown in the scrap-metal bin if they're damaged by the ridge. I let the boring-bar deal with the ridge.

MOST OEM pistons are not worth saving--they're heavy, they're cast to be cheap, they're maybe not shaped properly for optimal compression and flame travel...modern pistons can be so much better than what came in the engine to begin with.

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I completely agree that the ridge is likely the cause of the broken rings.

To my way of thinking, a ridge-reamer is a tool for destroying cylinder walls. It's really easy to get too aggressive and carve too deeply. In my world, the pistons get knocked-out and thrown in the scrap-metal bin if they're damaged by the ridge. I let the boring bar deal with the ridge.

MOST OEM pistons are not worth saving--they're heavy, they're cast to be cheap, they're maybe not shaped properly for optimal compression and flame travel...modern pistons can be so much better than what came in the engine to begin with.
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I never considered to ridge reem the top of the cyl. prior to removing the pistons. Is that Protocall when dismantling the motor? I always thought that came later, as a matter of fact one would Bore first and that should remove the ridge before Honing and lastly cross Hatching the cyl. , wall with x's.

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