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Old 02-23-2024, 11:34 PM
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Pull the wheel and look for something on the brake shoes that should not be there. Axle lube, brake fluid or ?

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Old 02-23-2024, 11:50 PM
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Leaking rear grease seal will definitely create the condition you're describing. When grease gets on the rear shoes they will lock up, and skid the wheel that is leaking. It may very well be intermitent, and hard to duplicate.

My advice is to pull the brake drum, and look for contamination on the lining. Brake fluid can also cause this condition, but grease leaking is usually the problem.

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Old 02-24-2024, 11:32 AM
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Sirrotica probably has the most likely answer. But a few things you can do to eliminate other items is: Items it can not be in your system. Master cylinder, power booster, flex hoses or hard lines. This is because the flex line is single in the rear and would effect both rear wheels. So the items left are the individual wheel brakes. Look for leaks of brake fluid or grease as mentioned . Smell the wheels when hot. Grease soaked linings will have a rotten burned sulfur smell. Burned brake fluid has a strong bitter smell. A 4-wheel inspection of the brakes should reveal the problem pretty quickly. If there are NO LEAKS brake fluid or grease, then the only thing left that could cause single wheel lock-up is uneven shoe to drum adjustment or extremely weak or a broken spring on the shoes. That is pretty rare. Let us know what you find.


I just re-read your opening post and caught the DOT 5 fluid mentioned. I know there are many people who swear by DOT 5 fluid in these old cars and have anecdotal evidence of decades of success using it in everything. If the fluid is DOT 5.1, that's fine. If your using DOT 5, pure silicone fluid, all bets are off as far as any and all rubber parts swelling, sticking, tearing in these old systems. This can be from the master cylinder to the wheel cylinder cups and everything in between. It's wonderful that DOT 5 fluid does not absorb water but it is absolutely not compatible with old rubber brake parts. I have personally seen wheel cylinder cups swell to double their normal size, master cylinder seals turn to jelly and roll off the piston, and antilock units seize up completely on modern cars. So in your case, with DOT 5 in the system for years, exercise each wheel cylinder with a little pry bar and make sure the 2 pistons feel the same and move smoothly on all 4 wheels and there are no leaks. The compatibility grouping for brake fluid is: DOT 3,4,5.1 all compatible and can be mixed. DOT 5 not compatible with any other fluid and must be evaluated on a case by case basis with the rubber product used. Good luck with it.


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Pull the wheel and look for something on the brake shoes that should not be there. Axle lube, brake fluid or ?
Primary and secondary shoes reversed or both on the same side.

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Old 02-29-2024, 10:36 PM
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Pulled the wheel and drum. Wheel cylinder and axle seal completely dry, but brake shoes clearly had an issue(see photo attached). Inner edge of both shoes contaminated by brake fluid. Once I saw this, I recalled something that happened last summer when replacing the master cylinder.
While gravity bleeding the left rear I set up the bleed hose and routed it into a small jar while the car was up on my drive on lift. Went inside for lunch and when I came back I discovered the bleeder hose had popped off the bleeder fitting. Fluid had run down the backing plate and about 1/2 ounce was puddled up where the tire was in contact with the lift runway. I cleaned all this up and finished the bleeding process.
I think what I failed to realize was that as this fluid reached the bottom of the backing plate, a small amount was able to curl around the edge of the backing plate. From there I guess it got picked up by the edge of the drum and somehow distributed around the inner edge of the shoes.
Anyway, installed new shoes and all seems fine after a short test drive. Thanks for all the responses.
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Glad you found and corrected the issue. Does look like the organic shoes absorbed the fluid that unfortunately had leaked on them. That's a quick easy fix!

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