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Old 07-25-2024, 01:08 PM
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1970 genuine T/A has correct early fenders and dash bezel.

Clone does not.

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Old 07-26-2024, 05:50 PM
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1970 genuine T/A has correct early fenders and dash bezel.
No offense "madgoat";
Have some here lost sense of direction?

You can have a one owner, or single family car that is numbers matching and has the wrong fenders;
This car in question was undeniably repainted - and it isn't unusual for repainted cars to get replacement panels - only recently have people worried about idiosyncrasies like correct early fender tops.

in that same vein, you could have a one owner (fifty-four year old car) that has replacement interior parts like a dash bezel which is not assembly line correct.

And similarly, you can have a clone that has all the correct parts.

I would wager that in the first twenty to thirty years, many people just serviced these as used cars, and replaced worn parts with the best they could find.

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Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


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Old 07-26-2024, 06:27 PM
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That's what makes the intact / original cars more valuable and more incredible.
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That's what makes the intact / original cars more valuable and more incredible.
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I completely agree.

And it gives people who are restoring their cars to the highest level of correctness as a guide book of sorts.

I mean wrong fenders shouldn't be that big of a deal - surely the presence of replacement fenders doesn't take away from overall experience of the car...
I try to frame it akin to an owner going the dealer ordering replacement parts 3-5 years after purchase;
There are parts which are obviously incorrect - then there are replacement parts which are not identical to the parts originally used on the assembly line.

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1970 Formula 400
Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 07-26-2024, 06:55 PM
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No offense "madgoat";
Have some here lost sense of direction?

You can have a one owner, or single family car that is numbers matching and has the wrong fenders;
This car in question was undeniably repainted - and it isn't unusual for repainted cars to get replacement panels - only recently have people worried about idiosyncrasies like correct early fender tops.

in that same vein, you could have a one owner (fifty-four year old car) that has replacement interior parts like a dash bezel which is not assembly line correct.

And similarly, you can have a clone that has all the correct parts.

I would wager that in the first twenty to thirty years, many people just serviced these as used cars, and replaced worn parts with the best they could find.
Well I'm learning alot on this site and Like you said these are old cars. I believe incorrect fenders probably means an automobile accident that's why some guys don't like it. That's my understanding of why it's mentioned. Fenders don't normally wear out dude but interior does. It's possible that it got a replacement front end and frame tweeked. Big red flag for big dollar car

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