#1  
Old 08-26-2024, 04:54 AM
Kenth's Avatar
Kenth Kenth is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Kingdom of Sweden
Posts: 6,097
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mgarblik View Post
Thank you for clearing that up. My information came from an old GM film that showed the build process of Pontiac engines at the plant. I was almost sure I was watching the final dynamic balance being performed on rotating engines and just small amounts of finish balance material being removed externally. I remember thinking that was really bizarre as that would sort of marry the flywheel to the crankshaft which would be wrong. How in the world did they drill cast iron counterweights on an assembled engine without leaving metal in the engine? Amazing!
This may be the film?
9.45 into it they describe the balancing of the assembled block.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LuXf6gJ-jg

__________________
1966 GTO Tri-Power
1970 GTO TheJudge
http://www.poci.org/
http://gtoaa.org/
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Kenth For This Useful Post:
  #2  
Old 08-26-2024, 08:10 AM
mgarblik mgarblik is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 6,992
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenth View Post
This may be the film?
9.45 into it they describe the balancing of the assembled block.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LuXf6gJ-jg
I am not sure if that's the same film. Some of it looks familiar because I remember being surprised by the number of women working the engine line. This film clearly shows and the narration states the balance involves removing metal from counterweights and all engines get this treatment. It also shows cranks being installed with major balancing completed before installation as the large balancing holes can be seen before the crank is lowered in he block. For some reason, I think the film deep in my memory was about 30 minutes long, not 10. This may have been an edited version. Also, my foggy memory seemed to to remember some manual transmission engines getting the final balance with the flywheels in place. This film showed all auto trans ones in that section. In any event, your explanation makes much more sense and would allow for much greater interchange without problems later in the engines life. Thanks for finding that.

  #3  
Old 08-26-2024, 12:03 PM
scott70's Avatar
scott70 scott70 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: maine
Posts: 2,733
Default

Well this thread has helped me out on somewhat understanding and to ask questions. I just happen to had a new steel billet flywheel and clutch at the machine shop to check for balancing per McLeod own recommendations. Just went to pick them up and asked if he had balanced my motor ( 5 years ago) with the oem flywheel. He tried to look it up quickly but didn’t find anything. He asked if I still had the oem flywheel I said yes it’s still in the car. He said bring it in and they will check it and match it to the new flywheel if need be. So I guess I’m yanking the muncie out a little earlier than I had planned. The new McLeod flywheel was very close itself to neutral balance and by clocking the PP on it got the whole thing balanced but that might be all out the window now.

__________________
72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007
(cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD
1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.45 @ 88.1 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.19 60ft.Owned since 86'
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:55 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017