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Old 09-02-2024, 10:16 AM
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Have you ever made a full pass with no stop on?



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New to the group & first post. I’m running a DCI 5 combo, the guy that build my Taj Mahal intake also spec’d my headers. The trq numbers were a good bit lower than my previous build & thinking it’s a combination of huge plenum & too big of header tubes 2 1/4 to 2 3/8 5” collector. Anyone else running tubes this big on 1050-1100 hp range. My dad’s combo has 2 1/8 to 2 1/4 w/4” collector, smaller intake plenum as well & made roughly 80 ft lbs more trq.
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Not the best but a couple pics of my intake. Which appears to be part of the problem
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Have you ever made a full pass with no stop on?


Not completely, last year I had a brain fart while adjusting the close rate on my throttle stop. I left those numbers in so it only stayed closed for .5 tenths of a second @ 3800 rpm. It went 8.69 @ 159 lifting after the 1000 ft. Air was roughly 4400 ft.

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Not bad!

That intake looks like it would be good with a 8-71 blower?



I'm not up on throttle stop workings. When the stop comes on, does the rpm's drop to idle or stay around 3500/4500 rpms?
Also when does yours come on like .2 from launch or later?
From ET slip must be before 60' for sure. Comes back on around .3/.5 into the 'stop'?

My thinking is maybe the rpm's are too low when coming off stop and the car takes too long to get back in power range? (like around 7000RPM?)


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Not bad!

That intake looks like it would be good with a 8-71 blower?



I'm not up on throttle stop workings. When the stop comes on, does the rpm's drop to idle or stay around 3500/4500 rpms?
Also when does yours come on like .2 from launch or later?
From ET slip must be before 60' for sure. Comes back on around .3/.5 into the 'stop'?

My thinking is maybe the rpm's are too low when coming off stop and the car takes too long to get back in power range? (like around 7000RPM?)

Mine & dad’s cars are setup almost identical. The stops come on @ .005 & we’re both on around 3.000. I think I had 3.020 in timer 2 & he had 3.110 for first round at bowling green last weekend. For now both of our stop RPM’s is 4,000. Both 3 speed lenco/bruno. I have a 2.24 low gear & he has a 2.08. He has a 4.56 rear & I have 4.29 now. I lost just over 2 mph when I broke my 4.56 & put my 4.29s in. Lightened gear set ceramic bearings.

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This was last weekend me & dad running each other. I had changed carbs & throttle stops prior to the event & my 60ft picked up a tenth. When me & dad ran each other at Charlotte in the spring we were only a hundredth or two apart until I broke
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Not bad!

That intake looks like it would be good with a 8-71 blower?



I'm not up on throttle stop workings. When the stop comes on, does the rpm's drop to idle or stay around 3500/4500 rpms?
Also when does yours come on like .2 from launch or later?
From ET slip must be before 60' for sure. Comes back on around .3/.5 into the 'stop'?

My thinking is maybe the rpm's are too low when coming off stop and the car takes too long to get back in power range? (like around 7000RPM?)

This is me & dad @ Charlotte this year.
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With that slip, I wonder if your carb is too small? You seem to do good until the last half of the quarter? You're running gasoline also right? Not alcohol?



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Not bad!

That intake looks like it would be good with a 8-71 blower?



I'm not up on throttle stop workings. When the stop comes on, does the rpm's drop to idle or stay around 3500/4500 rpms?
Also when does yours come on like .2 from launch or later?
From ET slip must be before 60' for sure. Comes back on around .3/.5 into the 'stop'?

My thinking is maybe the rpm's are too low when coming off stop and the car takes too long to get back in power range? (like around 7000RPM?)

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With that slip, I wonder if your carb is too small? You seem to do good until the last half of the quarter? You're running gasoline also right? Not alcohol?


Yes for gas, when we had my engine on the dyno Trevor Wiggins ( get’m carbs) spent the day with me. We tried a 1450 braswell that belongs to the engine builder first & his fuel renegade 120. Then switched to my carb & fuel ( fuel factory f14). My carb is a get’m 1250 that’s a twin to dads. Trevor also brought a 1350. Both get’m carbs made more hp than the braswell with the 1350 making 6hp more than my 1250. Trevor was at that track last weekend & watched us run, we spoke about putting a bigger carb on my car.. Either a 1350 four hole or a 1400 cfm twin blade

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Are you in high gear when the throttle comes back on?



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