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Old 07-10-2025, 07:10 PM
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Question for you guys:

Rear view mirror. My original has gone missing, but it was the type that mounts to the roof and the sun visors tie into the mirror mount, much like a 1st gen. Flipping thru the Ames book, they show a polished stainless mirror labeled as 70-71, but it mounts to the glass like a 71+ not a 70.

Can I order a mirror, mount, and rubber trim piece for a 69? And more importantly, would that be accurate for a 70?
Incase Bruce missed it;
I think you might be in error.

The roof mounted visor bracket is a different part, which did not support the mirror.

There was an early mirror, which I have not seen, but was made aware of - it used a different ball pivot and the design changed because those mirrors would loosen over time to the point where they could not be fixed.

The common "1970" mirror is in essence the same as the one used throughout the second generation, except it had a chrome back.

HERE is a link;
Click on it, and look at the hotlinked image for item 'C16' (sunvisors) - in that image you can see the way the visors mounted, and where the mirror was.

I hope this helps

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Incase Bruce missed it;
I think you might be in error.

The roof mounted visor bracket is a different part, which did not support the mirror.

There was an early mirror, which I have not seen, but was made aware of - it used a different ball pivot and the design changed because those mirrors would loosen over time to the point where they could not be fixed.

The common "1970" mirror is in essence the same as the one used throughout the second generation, except it had a chrome back.

HERE is a link;
Click on it, and look at the hotlinked image for item 'C16' (sunvisors) - in that image you can see the way the visors mounted, and where the mirror was.

I hope this helps
Digging thru old photos, the windshield that was in the car did have a mirror mount on it, so now idk wtf to think.

In my headliner box full of everything related to the roof was the center bracket, which has the steel inner bracket and opening for a mirror, but now seeing the old windshield having a mount glued to it is throwing me off.


I'll go with the glass mounted one, and just run the center visor mount for now. I would be interested in hearing if anyone here has a roof mounted mirror in their 70 though.

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... I would be interested in hearing if anyone here has a roof mounted mirror in their 70 though.
Please see aforementioned link, and John's post where he shows the first design (glass mounted) mirror.

Wrong (replacment) parts often find their way onto cars - there are myriads of examples, but ones which stand out to me as people digging in their heels as "being original to my car" are items like shifter knobs, window cranks, lock ferrules.

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Please see aforementioned link, and John's post where he shows the first design (glass mounted) mirror.
I meant I was interested in anyone who is currently running one.


Anyways...

Things are progressing. The interior pieces are starting to show up. Unfortunately they sent the wrong door panels, but everything else is correct and looks awesome. I've begun breaking down the seats so I can blast and paint the springs and frames.

Here's a pic of the lower panel against the (wrong) door panel. The hood is now cut and buffed and looks like a mirror.






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