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Later built ++ options - non posi For your other records. |
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Another Non - Pattern from GAA
02C Baltimore |
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Thanks for the PHS' BVZ!
I updated the web page. I bolded the 2 pattern numbers I have in the Baltimore plant. I wonder if the second 'batch' is determinable from the Zone ID, for instance in the Baltimore Plant: ZBA551370 : pattern #41 ZBB515562 : pattern #41 The last letter may be useful? All the Z's (Zone) are either 'A' or 'B' I don't think the pattern #'s (DON) for all plants, each plant had their own pattern #'s (DON) (why there may be possibly many same pattern #'s (DON) total like 5 17's)
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Then after I posted above, the A Plant with 2 17's with the 'B' in the ID's
![]() Don't really know how they determined the patter #/ DON's (unless they went more than twice around)
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! W.E.C moment "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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And I was looking at the wrong thing on the '17' in last post.
![]() Too many numbers. ![]() Anyway, Back to the 'A' and 'B' being 2 runs of numbers?
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! W.E.C moment "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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The build plant isn't a determination in the Pattern Count.
It's all about the selling Zone Number - aka Zone 16 Charlotte NC etc... Each Zone had an individual exclusive count. No repeats or interlopers within a Zone. 3rd digit (ZBA - ZBB) is the payment form of the selling dealer. A - GMAC financing B - pre -approved Banking institution where a dealer has secured his own type of financing C - Cash or Check aka - how the dealer would pay PMD for the car I posted 3 new PHS , only 1 was a Pattern. Just for you and North's overall file contents on the other 2. Last edited by Baron Von Zeppelin; 10-17-2025 at 01:12 PM. |
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Streamlining all of North's examples into individual Zones shows us there are no repeats within an individual Zone.
His Zone Count theory from a few years ago was indeed Correct. Tracking them by individual Zone is the way to track the Pattern Cars. Tracking by plant is just a way to get a handle on the VIN ranges. If you had a sample with no docs or trim tag data - might could determine if VIN fits in Pattern range, Problem is we have at least 2 interlopers , an 01B and an 01D , so far. The 02C cars sort of throw a new wrench in the tail end. Years ago , 02B were the latest documentable Patterns we could find. At that time , all the 02C examples we found were Non-Pattern. All confirmed data is good data . Just would like to see - all in one place - a documented 02C car with its invoice and trim tag displayed. For my own well being . lol |
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