[cmoc-bob]

Well, that is marketing hype.

Have your oil tested, send them base oil, oil run without the additive and then oil you run with the additive.

Assuming you really want to know the results of additives.

Else, mix in whatever you want, your motor, your call.

[Elarson]

Long time ago, I was in a parts store. Another customer came in to get stuff for an oil change. He asked for the cheapest filter they had and asked for the cheapest oil they had. Then he noticed the Slick 50 display and asked the counter guy if it was good. Counter guy said "We sell a lot of it and nobody has brought any back". Cheap oil guy was impressed and bought a bottle. I'm betting he could have bought the best oil and filter and come out cheaper with better protection.

Eric

[cmoc-bob]

When Slick 50 first came out, they did a TV commercial, drained the oil and drove a car for 90 miles.

And showed a running motor with Slick 50 on a stand, drained the oil out. Motor kept running.

What they didn't tell people, if I remember the Tribology study right, stuff was just that. Some stupid amount of ZDDP. Nothing else.

Motor would seize up after it stopped, internally rust, etc.

Thought it was "slick" marketing for sure.

[Steve C.]

Slick 50

What's in it......

https://slick50store.com/cdn/shop/pr...g?v=1644945108


Slick 50 Original Engine Treatment is engineered to outperform and optimize engine performance. The original PTFE Slick 50 Engine Treatment has been updated with Cerflon® technology to create a ceramic reinforcement of your internal engine parts. Slick 50 technology increases lubricity and durability for lubricants and coatings.

The chemical compound, Boron Nitride, is added to the fluoropolymer - also known by the DuPont registered trademark Teflon. Not only is Boron Nitride the only material known to fully reinforce the fluoropolymer, in fact, in a 4 Ball Wear Test an industry-standard test that measures the wear protection of a fluid on a metal surface, a base oil compound with Cerflon scores 15% better than a base oil compound in PTFE alone.


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[P@blo]

All you guys have left is anecdotals. Where are your youtube chemical engineers and OA to clarify?

Word on the street is Slick50 is pretty slick

[78w72]

Originally Posted by P@blo

All you guys have left is anecdotals. Where are your youtube chemical engineers and OA to clarify?

Word on the street is Slick50 is pretty slick

Basic oil analysis at blackstone are $40 now, have been $25-30 for the last 20+ years.

Back on page 1 I asked a simple question as to why you feel your engine/oil needs 1800ppm of zddp after cam break in... got nothing but crickets and so far nothing but your anecdotal statements that you think are somehow more valid than what experts on oils or actual people that engineer the oils, tribologists, and oil companies state.

Its a fact too much zddp is not good for normal use and playing tribologist with additives is rarely better than the actual oil itself. Nobody is saying your gonna blow up the engine, just that a good oil is better than almost any home made additive filled oil.

Its also a fact that modern oils are far better than oils of even 20 years ago let alone 30-40 when they had to use gobs of zddp because the base stocks were crap and most modern additives didnt exist in oil back then like they do now.

Today, with other modern additives & advanced zddp that doesnt wear out as fast, the ridiculous high levels are simply not needed for the majority of fully broken in stock to mild cams. Ive ran good brand off the shelf oils in stock size FT cam daily drivers for 100k+ miles as well as stock pontiac cams and what I consider mild street cams with ~.480 lift for 30+ years, never had a cam/lifter/engine problem related to oil. Ever.

Thats on SM, SN or SN+ API oil with an average of 900ppm zddp along with other modern anti wear additives like moly etc... 30+ years. Am I doing something wrong and should be pouring in additives or buying $10+/qt racing oils for my stock to mild cam engines?

[Formulajones]

I'll assume you've at least sent a sample in if for nothing else at least to see how well your oil and filters are doing.

[P@blo]

Originally Posted by cmoc-bob

Well, that is marketing hype.

Have your oil tested, send them base oil, oil run without the additive and then oil you run with the additive.

Assuming you really want to know the results of additives.

Else, mix in whatever you want, your motor, your call.

How much information do you have to provide the analysis lab prior to the report? Can they tell you what the oils is being used for and how well it is performing without you explaining how the lubricant is being used first? Nope. Shurely they know the mileage and how hard you are pushing your equipment too right? Fact is the analysis is to notice trends through the intended life of the lubricant and hopefully reduce wear. At $30 for the oil a $75 analysis does not make a lot of sense.

Screw compressors with $4000 worth of food grade lubricant yes but $50-100 lubricants I am thinking not so much. Your mileage may vary though.

[cmoc-bob]

Contact the companies to find out.

Purpose was to inform people that mixing additives into base oils is a bad practice.

If you want to mix additives and say it's great because that is what you want to do - be it Slick 50, EOS or Redline - go right ahead.

Your motor and your money - saying it's sound science and engineering I think has been proven otherwise.

[Formulajones]

Originally Posted by P@blo

How much information do you have to provide the analysis lab prior to the report? Can they tell you what the oils is being used for and how well it is performing without you explaining how the lubricant is being used first? Nope. Shurely they know the mileage and how hard you are pushing your equipment too right? Fact is the analysis is to notice trends through the intended life of the lubricant and hopefully reduce wear. At $30 for the oil a $75 analysis does not make a lot of sense.

Screw compressors with $4000 worth of food grade lubricant yes but $50-100 lubricants I am thinking not so much. Your mileage may vary though.

As 78w72 said, the analysis is about $40. If you really do care how your oil package is treating your engine then it shouldn't even be a question of cost. Especially when a well built street strip engine is costing upwards of $15,000 or more to build these days. $40 is chump change. Actually I found them to save me money in the long run. Once I found a good lubricant and filter package, and then found how long I could extend change intervals it was a win win.

I don't quite understand the rest of your logic in your post. An oil analysis is just that. Very simple to do and provides a wealth of information.