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Old 12-11-2025, 09:51 PM
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The two M20 Codes from Fremont might help to find a sheet with a 3rd (M21) code.
JP - M20 3.90
KP - M20 Standard

FP - M12 3 speed

If John V. pops in here , he probably already has all this sorted out.
He is dialed into 64s better than anyone and has a very large pool of documented examples.

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Old 12-12-2025, 01:20 AM
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Code 9 / JP M20 is using 17 tooth speedo gear (3.90)
Code W / KP M20 is using 19 tooth speedo gear (3.23)

Code X / FP M12 is using 19 tooth speedo gear (3.23)

Code J / SP M31 is using {35} tooth speedo gear - with an adapter for 3.36
3.23 must have been it's top limit w/o an adapter

In something I googled up , from here I think , said Code 9 used a 6 tooth gear.
That must have been a typo error.

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Old 12-12-2025, 02:20 AM
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Mickey Craig's 1st car must have been the Code H , 3.90 peg-leg

He talked like he didn't pick out anything on it.
His Dad ordered it and gave it to him for graduating.
I think it was White .Tarheel T would remember.
Cool Dad either way . It was TriPower.
Mickey ordered Black on the 65 replacement , so he must not have even got to pick the color on the 64.





64 4bbl Auto with 3.08
Axle code D0
* 41* tooth Speedometer Gear
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here's the P.O.P. for the post 15 sheet: (F021774)





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Old 12-13-2025, 12:14 AM
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I'm using Google image search to find prospects.
Seems like an endless supply of them , majority are Fremont and PMD with sparse KC .
Don't think I am hitting any Baltimore cars.

The way KC manifests are done , we won't be able to distinguish with full certainty whether a 3.90 car is M20 version or M21 version.

I go through them for periods of time , at different times , until it makes me drowsy.
It's like searching for a 68 RamAir ll BHC or TA convertible invoice.

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BVZ, I found this one, had it as a 1963?


You may have it too, it's Wanger's 64 GTO.


If anyone got the M-21 it would be him? Nov 2 though.







Notice the '5' added? I think that was for the NEW? M-21.
(think '3' was the other M21)


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The 5 was added in the tire code box.
3L was 3.23 posi with metallic brakes aka 42:13 memo
70-9 is an offbeat axle designator but have seen a couple others coded that way in past few days of searches.
= Performance axle ratio with Posi ( 3.23 .... ok )

64's are a messy bunch of codes from plant to plant

Like you said , too early for M21
Was this the "red ringer" 421cid magazine test car ?


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Old 12-13-2025, 05:09 PM
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The way KC manifests are done , we won't be able to distinguish with full certainty whether a 3.90 car is M20 version or M21 version.
John V. could probably tell which tranny if we find a 3.90 example from Kansas or Baltimore.
I don't have their tranny code glossary . It's different.

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