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Old 04-11-2026, 02:58 PM
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Here's a page I made for the Baltimore cars/cowltags that I have.
These are not just Judges but all Baltimore that I have,
Interesting data I think.


Baltimore built cowl tag data


Also added the PHS shipped date if I have that data.



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Updated data on Balt. tags. (from NORTH mostly)

69 Baltimore Tag Data

John, can you check the tag for 172765? I think it may have been misread?
I have checked a lot of my 69 Bird tags and found some I misread after seeing 'wrong' sequences.

Also the vin 170503 I think the period after the BAL should have been a '5' which aligns with the other data?

I have found when doing the 69 Firebird tags that the BDY # seems to be in sequence as they were sent to the Bird factories, this came from camaros.org (Kevin Sonen maybe?). It explained a lot of weird sequences between LOS/VN, U and NOR.

I would have to look and see if some other A-body plant used that?

If you sort by the BDY tab at top of table it will show when the BDY order was sent to factory. The VIN may not be sequenced with BDY, which would depend on when it went to the line. The 'UNK' # will kind of say when it went to the line, while the Date code will follow if no extra detours (work on it) was needed.

We need to find someone who was in the 'upper' management on how this work flow worked.

Look at camaros.org on the tag section for some insight.


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Added my tag data to it now.



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I double checked 172765, the info I provided is correct. tag looks legit, photo is clear and car was a low value car in poor condition, not likely fudging going on. probably a typo at the factory

As for 170503 (a judge ragtop btw), the tag also looks legit, there is a comma where you should have the 5. probably also a factory typo.

Some other plants used Body numbers that were specific to each body style and model. I suspect that the UNK# number at Baltimore might be some kind of order number that Fisher body received from the car division. I'd love to see trimtags for other car makes produced at Baltimore the same model year.

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Updated data on Balt. tags. (from NORTH mostly)

69 Baltimore Tag Data

John, can you check the tag for 172765? I think it may have been misread?
I have checked a lot of my 69 Bird tags and found some I misread after seeing 'wrong' sequences.

Also the vin 170503 I think the period after the BAL should have been a '5' which aligns with the other data?

I have found when doing the 69 Firebird tags that the BDY # seems to be in sequence as they were sent to the Bird factories, this came from camaros.org (Kevin Sonen maybe?). It explained a lot of weird sequences between LOS/VN, U and NOR.

I would have to look and see if some other A-body plant used that?

If you sort by the BDY tab at top of table it will show when the BDY order was sent to factory. The VIN may not be sequenced with BDY, which would depend on when it went to the line. The 'UNK' # will kind of say when it went to the line, while the Date code will follow if no extra detours (work on it) was needed.

We need to find someone who was in the 'upper' management on how this work flow worked.

Look at camaros.org on the tag section for some insight.


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I added another Pattern Judge in the web page I made.


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