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11-09-2004, 02:32 PM
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Chief Ponti-yacker
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The November issue of Road & Track is having a voting for the best car of 2005. The GTO didn't even make the ballot slip. The G6 GT did. But not the GTO. What does that say to GM?
WAKE UP BOB CLUTZ
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11-13-2004, 07:13 PM
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Ultimate Warrior
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Danny, who is this "frist"........... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
David, I think it bumblers alter ego... 
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11-09-2004, 05:24 PM
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Gee, whadda ya know. The '05 Mustang GT is on there.
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11-09-2004, 08:15 PM
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I could personally give a rat's ass what Road & Track think about cars ... GM or otherwise. Just a bunch of sell-outs sucking on the tit of whomever gives them the best advertising and related press. Car & Driver ... same. I lump them all together. It's about business and subscription numbers, nothing else.
Mike M
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11-11-2004, 02:49 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>David, I get the impression you like to argue for the sake of arguing... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No. But I don't mind replying. As you did. Are there some rules that apply to me that don't apply to you?
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frittering and wasting the hours in an off hand way....
1969 GTO, 455ci, 230/236 Pontiac Dude's "Butcher Special" Comp hyd roller cam with Crower HIPPO solid roller lifters, Q-jet, Edelbrock P4B-QJ, Doug's headers, ported 6X-8 (97cc) heads, TKO600, 3.73 geared Eaton Tru-Trac 8.5", hydroboost, rear disc brakes......and my greatest mechanical feat....a new heater core. 
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11-13-2004, 10:30 AM
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Come on - I was trying to make peace with the guy. He agreed with something I said about Yassar Arafat in another thread ... agreeing with me is a first sign of higher intelligence :-) Or it could be a sign that one needs therapy ... the jury is still out on that one.
Now if I could just get my wife to agree sometimes!!!
Mike M
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11-12-2004, 10:45 AM
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I'm blushing......
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frittering and wasting the hours in an off hand way....
1969 GTO, 455ci, 230/236 Pontiac Dude's "Butcher Special" Comp hyd roller cam with Crower HIPPO solid roller lifters, Q-jet, Edelbrock P4B-QJ, Doug's headers, ported 6X-8 (97cc) heads, TKO600, 3.73 geared Eaton Tru-Trac 8.5", hydroboost, rear disc brakes......and my greatest mechanical feat....a new heater core.
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11-19-2004, 01:32 PM
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Shoot, them boys musta made a mistake.......
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frittering and wasting the hours in an off hand way....
1969 GTO, 455ci, 230/236 Pontiac Dude's "Butcher Special" Comp hyd roller cam with Crower HIPPO solid roller lifters, Q-jet, Edelbrock P4B-QJ, Doug's headers, ported 6X-8 (97cc) heads, TKO600, 3.73 geared Eaton Tru-Trac 8.5", hydroboost, rear disc brakes......and my greatest mechanical feat....a new heater core.
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11-11-2004, 07:54 PM
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look, i dont even know why there is a "war" going on about the GTO. look. if you like it, you like it, if you dont you dont. seams prety simple, but every one makes it so messed up. I'm not even going to state what i want because i know it will be put down no matter how i stand. why compare? get what you want. if you want a lot of power with cofortable riding area. get a GTO. if you want a balls out speed machine. get a cobra and supe it up. it all depends on what you want. so stop the war and just agree on your differences. peace
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11-10-2004, 05:04 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr_GTO:
Some people should actually read the REQUIREMENTS for being considered. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Now don't go confusing some of these folks with the facts... 
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11-11-2004, 10:06 AM
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You'll pardon me if I chose to NOT pay much attention to a magazine that picked the Subaru Impreza as the winner ??
Mike M
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11-09-2004, 07:32 PM
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Some people should actually read the REQUIREMENTS for being considered.
This year, we have simplified the voting process for the Road & Track Readers' Choice Award: The Best Car 2005. What's changed is that there will only be one round of voting to decide the winner. The Road & Track staff has compiled a list of candidates on the following pages with brief impressions and technical specifications. The rule is the same on how the new cars can qualify as a candidate. All the models must be all-new or have significant upgrades. Each must have a manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) of less than $100,000 and carry a 2005 model year designation. Of course, having above-average performance and handling, pleasing design, and being both space- and fuel-efficient are important too.
The 05 GTO doesn't qualify because just updating the engine isn't enough. But then again, those who are INTELLIGENT enough to figure that out.....well, then again, I did read the article and the RULES, unlike most here.
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11-11-2004, 10:45 AM
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Yeah, hate to have a car with some leading edge technology......
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frittering and wasting the hours in an off hand way....
1969 GTO, 455ci, 230/236 Pontiac Dude's "Butcher Special" Comp hyd roller cam with Crower HIPPO solid roller lifters, Q-jet, Edelbrock P4B-QJ, Doug's headers, ported 6X-8 (97cc) heads, TKO600, 3.73 geared Eaton Tru-Trac 8.5", hydroboost, rear disc brakes......and my greatest mechanical feat....a new heater core.
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11-10-2004, 12:54 AM
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Okay, so one of the major mags got it right .... 37 model years back :-)
Mike M
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11-19-2004, 04:48 PM
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Bob Lutz's brain fart in slapping together a boring car catered to the tuner crowd which resulted in pathetic sales will probably send a message to GM that people aren't interested in a GTO. GM in all their brilliance will make a "GTO G7" or something like that with the GTO name being phased out all together. When that happens the G6 wil be their flagship performance vehicle. DJ is right: opposing opinions are needed here.
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11-12-2004, 10:15 AM
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I agree, David does offer constructive input ... which requires a bit more insight than the typical "jelly bean" comments.
Mike M
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11-10-2004, 03:30 PM
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Newsflash!!!!!!!!!!!
It didn't win last year when it was on the list of 23 either. Didn't make the top group. Just the facts......
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=1206
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frittering and wasting the hours in an off hand way....
1969 GTO, 455ci, 230/236 Pontiac Dude's "Butcher Special" Comp hyd roller cam with Crower HIPPO solid roller lifters, Q-jet, Edelbrock P4B-QJ, Doug's headers, ported 6X-8 (97cc) heads, TKO600, 3.73 geared Eaton Tru-Trac 8.5", hydroboost, rear disc brakes......and my greatest mechanical feat....a new heater core.
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11-11-2004, 02:17 PM
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David, I get the impression you like to argue for the sake of arguing....
Those WRX cars are great rides - for that price, and that performance, I tip my hat to them. But as for technology, I'm fine with 500 horsepower pushrod single cam engines.
Mike M
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11-13-2004, 04:53 PM
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Danny, who is this "frist"...........
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frittering and wasting the hours in an off hand way....
1969 GTO, 455ci, 230/236 Pontiac Dude's "Butcher Special" Comp hyd roller cam with Crower HIPPO solid roller lifters, Q-jet, Edelbrock P4B-QJ, Doug's headers, ported 6X-8 (97cc) heads, TKO600, 3.73 geared Eaton Tru-Trac 8.5", hydroboost, rear disc brakes......and my greatest mechanical feat....a new heater core.
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11-09-2004, 08:55 PM
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1968 Motor Trend Car Of the Year:
Pontiac GTO
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