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Rocky Rotella has a good engine article in this months HPP with some really nice factory photos-
http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...nes/index.html

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Old 01-31-2010, 01:28 PM
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Darnit...I meant to put this on "YOUR BEST PONTIAC STORIES" to go with the other GM factory stuff.....Moderator?

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I saw that, too.

I thought it was a good article, but at the time I had just a couple of super nit-picky comments (Rocky -if you happen to see this I mean it in the most constructive way):

a) The caption for this picture reads "...a worker is putting the finishing touches, etc". Actually, this looks like a line supervisor to me, since he is wearing a necktie. Since he is doing some work, rather than an hourly employee, it means there is something wrong and he is desperately trying to get it fixed before it is too late (like before the engine leaves the last station and is conveyed over to the chassis). Given that background, you can kind of "feel" the tension in the photo and see the look of determination in his face.



When you see "neckties" working on the line, it usually means there is something "bad wrong"....(lol)

Note: you can also see the build manifests tucked above the engine hanger, in the conveyor

b) This photo is shown as a representation of how engines might have been painted in the production environment. However, since it is shown on a display stand, I would suggest the details might be suspect. Display engines, usually placed in the lobby of the powertrain building or for shows, would receive much more care (and more artistic license) than a production engine. I would trust an engine shown in a shipping crate or production style rack as a reference for restoration - but not one on a finished display stand.



My $.02, and again - great article, Rocky.

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Notice the #1 spark plug wire is on the head bolt stud?
Probably trying to find tdc or seeing why it won't fire?

EDIT: the other engine is the same way, must be normal procedure.


I'd like to have one of those sheets on the hoist.


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Just read the blurb on that pic at HPP website.

I don't believe they made a Y8 SD in 73.
But then I also don't show a ZN in 74?


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Installing screw-in plug on the back of the block that's to the left of the cam hole.

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Just read the blurb on that pic at HPP website.

I don't believe they made a Y8 SD in 73.
But then I also don't show a ZN in 74?

I read what it said on the website, but blowing it up, that first stamp looks like 72 YB.

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Just read the blurb on that pic at HPP website.

I don't believe they made a Y8 SD in 73.
But then I also don't show a ZN in 74?

John, I answered a post in the '74 section on this picture and remembered this thread. I believe the second engine is actually a ZW 455/4 bbl/unit distributor California engine.

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I'd like to have one of those sheets on the hoist.

Yeah - me too!

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[QUOTE=Keith Seymore;3895365]I saw that, too.

I thought it was a good article, but at the time I had just a couple of super nit-picky comments (Rocky -if you happen to see this I mean it in the most constructive way):

a) The caption for this picture reads "...a worker is putting the finishing touches, etc". Actually, this looks like a line supervisor to me, since he is wearing a necktie. Since he is doing some work, rather than an hourly employee, it means there is something wrong and he is desperately trying to get it fixed before it is too late (like before the engine leaves the last station and is conveyed over to the chassis). Given that background, you can kind of "feel" the tension in the photo and see the look of determination in his face.



When you see "neckties" working on the line, it usually means there is something "bad wrong"....(lol)

He's quickly intalling the "hidden" oil gally plug, some Chev guys were on the line that day...lol.

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Looks like he got his mod squad style belt caught in the flywheel teeth....lol.

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Looks like he got his mod squad style belt caught in the flywheel teeth....lol.
LOL!!

Actually, that was a problem back then: either getting your necktie hung up in something, or - worse yet - long hair! We had a few guys get premature balding when a big patch of hair caught in some nearby tooling

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Pesonal experience there Keith?

Get me a link to the thread you want this included in and I'll merge it for you.

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Not me; I was a GMI engineering nerd, remember?

= short hair, pocket protector.

I wish I was as hip as the guy in the photo....

(lol) -

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Pesonal experience there Keith?

Get me a link to the thread you want this included in and I'll merge it for you.

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You've already done what I wanted Mike. I just wanted it in the same forum as the following thread....which now it is. Thanks! http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...olor+gm+photos

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Sorry I didn't see this earlier. Thanks for the info guys, we now know more about the assembly line!

The shot on the HPP website is much smaller than the actual photo and it was clearly "ZN" in the larger shot. The only ZN I could find in any reference was a 400 in 1973.

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You know it's funny that out of all the photos in that article, the only one that gets any attention at all is that one of the SD.

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Sorry I didn't see this earlier. Thanks for the info guys, we now know more about the assembly line!

The shot on the HPP website is much smaller than the actual photo and it was clearly "ZN" in the larger shot. The only ZN I could find in any reference was a 400 in 1973.
OK then. I had to pull out the '73 Service Manual on this one as the later '73 engines don't list the ZN. As you can see, it lists the Y8 as being a SD engine. But that was probably scrapped when they had to redesign for new emission standards and renamed it XD.
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Sorry, HFR, I didn't see this post when I posted that pic in the other one.

I think we still have a lot to learn about how things worked back then.


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Love the photos. It appears the engines in this photo are late 50s Pontiac or maybe even GMC's with the small water pumps and stick bellhousings. You can make out the clutch plate and disc springs in one photo...great stuff
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