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Old 10-09-2011, 10:11 PM
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Default Slow cranking (not only when hot)

The last few times I've had the GTO out I've noticed that it cranked VERY slowly when starting, whether cold or hot (actually needed a boost the other day to get it fired back up). Motor is a RAIII 400 w/ RAIV cam and just over 4K miles since restoration (everything is new/rebuilt). Cables are 4GA, all grounds are in place and check out with <1ohm resistence back to the battery. Battery is a Optima Redtop 800CCA, 1000CA and I assume was new when restored in 2008.

Battery voltages seem ok when running (~13.35V) and at rest (~12.7V). When cranking however, the voltage dips down to ~9.6V, which I believe may be too low? I plan to have a load test done on it, but I am leaning towards a battery issue (which offers a good excuse to get a maintenance-free R59 and spring-ring cables)

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Old 10-12-2011, 09:01 PM
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When we tested batteries, anytime it went under 10.0V when cranking or under load, we would call it a bad battery. Make sure it is fully charged before testing.

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Old 10-13-2011, 07:57 AM
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Sounds like the starter is drawing a bunch when hot or the timing is too far advanced.

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Thanks for the replies guys. I brought a clamp-on home from work to check current draw and also need to check the timing, but haven't had a chance. Will also get that load test done before I make a final call on it.

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Just an update - the battery checked out through two load tests fine with well over 900CCA @ ~13V. Timing was a touch too far advanced @ 15' BTDC so I dialed it back to 12' BTDC, however this didn't help with the starting issue.

I finally had a chance to get the car jacked up and have a look underneath this morning. The starter connections were a touch loose, however the main issue was the ignition wire was close to the block and the insulation had worn/burnt off causing a partial short. Tightening the connection rotated the connection away from the block, (which is how I noticed) and resolved the problem.

Thanks again for the suggestions guys

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