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Has anyone had experience using this mounting bracket. I have it installed and it seems like it is pretty flimsy. I don't have alot of confidence in it. It looks nice, it just looks like it needs another bracket to support the back of it.
I've tried to call Tin Indian to see if they left something out. Tried a few times, left message and no return call.
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Try sending an e-mail....works better with Kevin.....Eric
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Maybe you could find the company that actually designed it and see what they say. Of course I'm just assuming he stole the design from someone else.
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Ouch!
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My solution..Have since went to 16v and no alternator
![]() Not sure whose mount it is....
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I've had one for a couple years and it works fine.It does flex slightly under load,but it holds the belts on.You might want to helicoil the two bolt holes,they take a lot of load.
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I have something similar. Seems flimsy to me as well, but has been working fine so far.
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Looks like a normal Alternator mount to me.
George |
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The Butler Performance Alternator Relocation kit parts are a lot better design.
See Article with photo of parts. http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...e/viewall.html Driver's side kit would be PN TRP-ALT1 and costs $85.00 I know the Pontiac guy who makes the Kits for Butler and it is a well designed/ quality part. Tom Vaught
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Quote:
Alan |
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Now a days with all the electronics in a race care it's important to have a well charged battery 12 or 16 volts. I would never race without an alternator. I always have 13.5 volts or better going down the track.
GTO George |
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Very, very important today with all of the electronics and massive fuel pumps some run. Tom Vaught
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I've been running a shogun Mini for years. works great on maintaining battery charge. But Dont have alot of electronic load. Like alot of the new cars today.
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So far I have not saw my voltage gauge below 14V after 2/3 runs...14 volts and I charge it..I do start with a fully charged battery on first pass. Eventurally I will get a 16v alternator...I have a "heavy" 16v battery but I also have a lot of reserve amps.. Question for Mr. Vaught...with AC 220 is much more efficent than 110 and requires less amps to do the same work......is this not true for 16v over 12v syatems.. triathlonx13:...that bracket looks thicker than my old Tin Indian....did Kevin beef them up..?
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I had problems with the Tin Indian bracket. Even with a deep groove pulley I still couldn't keep a belt on. We spent some time making sure everything was lined up perfectly and still had trouble. Went to the Butler kit and haven't touched it since. Much stronger deal with 0 flex. You don't have to take my word for it but Tom is an engineer isn't he? LOL |
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For SaleTin Indian Alternator mount!
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Here is a link to MMS & Accesories who I believe is the original manufacturer. Scroll down to the bottom. http://www.mmsacc-stainless.com/html/engine_access.htm
I think BOP was also selling the product.
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Mark from BOP designed that bracket in 1999 as an alternator kit for the BOP belt drive. I remember it well as I was there. It has been a very good bracket for many years and was just strong enough to eliminate most flex. It was then copied by several vendors a number of years later but the mounting was changed from holes to a slot for additional mounting positions. This weakened the bracket allowing it to flex too much and allow belt throwing and slippage. The design shown on the mms site in Dave's post is an exact copy of the BOP bracket albeit $9 more expensive. In fact, the picture shown on an engine was taken by us (BOP) at Norwalk and we used it for years. It was clearly lifted from our site. Our current bracket PAK46 is made from stainless steel and is supplied with coated grade 8 bolts. Thank you for supporting BOP...
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Hey Paul at FAST, you just made my Christmas list next year!.....Cliff
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As Wade said, You can have a great design but after a few copy the part with "their improvements" you go from a properly designed part to a piece of crap. Sorry, but you do not have a robust part, Lugnutt. I would recommend that you get either the Butler part or the ORIGINAL design part from the BOP people. Tom Vaught
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