[phoenixgraphix]

Phoenix Graphix is a licensed restoration manufacturer of General Motors automotive decals. The highest quality standards have been met which assures you the finest decals available on the market.

These kits are silk screened as the originals were done and are not digitally printed.
Buy with Confidence. Phoenix Graphix has been in business since 1985

[loglexkal]

Can you make 70-71 Judge stripes in colors other than factory colors? l am interested in getting a set of custom made Judge stripes on the reflective material like the factory stripes but in a different color scheme. Thanks




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[phoenixgraphix]

I am sorry but we can't do a custom color for you. This is a silk screened product as original and it is not possible to do any custom colors.

[loglexkal]

Phoenixgraphix....Would it be possible to produce these stripes in colors you already produce decals in? I was looking to get them made in the Blue 73-78 Trans Am colors. Thanks for the reply.

[phoenixgraphix]

Originally Posted by loglexkal

Phoenixgraphix....Would it be possible to produce these stripes in colors you already produce decals in? I was looking to get them made in the Blue 73-78 Trans Am colors. Thanks for the reply.

I am sorry we can't do that for you. The silk screens are set up to run a large quantities at a time to make our product cost effective.

[Jack Ferris]

FYI your stripe chart for body colors is inaccurate. Warwick Blue gets the Black/White/Red stripes.

[phoenixgraphix]

Originally Posted by Jack Ferris

FYI your stripe chart for body colors is inaccurate. Warwick Blue gets the Black/White/Red stripes.

Is it possible for you to please send us a copy of your stripe chart. We strive to provide the most accurate and correct decals available in the industry. This information would be most helpful. Also if you have any photos of the car with the decals you are describing we would greatly appreciate it.

[Jack Ferris]

Originally Posted by phoenixgraphix

Is it possible for you to please send us a copy of your stripe chart. We strive to provide the most accurate and correct decals available in the industry. This information would be most helpful. Also if you have any photos of the car with the decals you are describing we would greatly appreciate it.

Here you go:
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=739823

[phoenixgraphix]

Originally Posted by Jack Ferris

Here you go:
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=739823

We were unable to open this link. If you have the time can you send it as an attachment.
Thank you

[johnta1]

His link is for another thread on PY.

These are the pics of Judge stripes on them:
(from that thread)

[1969 Ram Air]

Phoenixgraphix did the decals for my '73 Formula and they came out great. I'm very impressed with their products.

[Jack Ferris]

Thanks John

[The Boss]

Are there any plans to reproduce the stripes as they were originally or will they continue to be made the way they always have been?



http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=732300

[Bet Winner]

Are the repo 69 blue stripes and stickers exact? I am curious since I have some nos ones.

[Bermuda Blue]

Originally Posted by Bet Winner

Are the repo 69 blue stripes and stickers exact? I am curious since I have some nos ones.

Some reproduction blue stripes (do not recall which manufacturer) use a much lighter blue than factory so they are not exact. The factory blue is so dark that it appears black. Not until you put something next to it which is black (like a piece of black electrical tape), can you tell its blue. Other than that, you probably can't tell the difference.

Personally, I prefer the look of the stripes which have the lighter blue.

[Bet Winner]

Originally Posted by Bermuda Blue

Other than that, you probably can't tell the difference.

I am wanting to know if you have an original stripe and a repo of the red/yellow/blue (the correct dark blue of course) side by side, can we tell the difference? And the same question for the stickers.

I do know of the lighter blue, switch to black in Feb 69 etc.

thanks

(Possibly the only difference from all the original Judge stripes is what The Boss pointed out earlier and the 69's are exact? except the lighter blue difference of course)

[Bermuda Blue]

Originally Posted by Bet Winner

I am wanting to know if you have an original stripe and a repo of the red/yellow/blue (the correct dark blue of course) side by side, can we tell the difference? And the same question for the stickers.

I do know of the lighter blue, switch to black in Feb 69 etc.

thanks

(Possibly the only difference from all the original Judge stripes is what The Boss pointed out earlier and the 69's are exact? except the lighter blue difference of course)

Sorry, I do not have a side-by-side comparison of an original red/yellow/blue and a reproduction red/yellow/blue but my untrained eye says they are pretty close. But then again my eyesight is not what it used to be.

Also, I have seen a few march cars (one was 3rd week) with the blue stripe. this was determined by examining original cars as well as stripe remnants wrapped around the door edge which I am quite sure were original.

[phoenixgraphix]

Originally Posted by The Boss

Are there any plans to reproduce the stripes as they were originally or will they continue to be made the way they always have been?



http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=732300

The stripe you are showing as a NOS stripe with a pinstripe is where the pink silk screened color is actually overlapping the orange. The colors are individual and should not overlap. We corrected this issue by making sure the colors did not overlap when they are silk screened. Thank you for your question.

[gtohurstjudge]

I have a question for Phoenix Graphix........I have seen your Judge stripes
on 69's (not your current ones but stripes from ten years ago, and the width of the three
colors was not uniform from door to fender and from door to quarter. On one panel the
yellow was too wide and on the adjacent panel the yellow was too narrow creating a mismatch where they joined. The factory Pontiac stripes were like this as well and I always
thought this made the stripes look terrible. I have stripes from Year One on my 69 that were
made by Dale's Cuda Shop and the widths of the three colors on the stripe are perfectly
uniform. Also on the DCS stripes I have, the two inside colors are printed on top of yellow
film, so that the yellow edge is all the way through the material, making it impossible
for the edge to wear off and turn white. This happened to factory Pontiac stripes when
they were only a couple of years old. I've had many people who own 69 Judges go nuts
over my stripes because they are so perfectly uniform and don't have white edges. How do
the stripes that you are making at present compare regarding the two issues I mentioned?
Someone told me recently that DCS doesn't make Judge stripes for Year One anymore but I haven't checked to verify that is true.

[gto4evr]

Originally Posted by gtohurstjudge

........ the width of the three
colors was not uniform from door to fender and from door to quarter. On one panel the
yellow was too wide and on the adjacent panel the yellow was too narrow creating a mismatch where they joined. The factory Pontiac stripes were like this as well .

This is the first I've heard of this. So the factory stripes wandered in width on 69s? I paid $225 for a set of stripes from the Paddock back in 1987 (receipt's still in the box) and they were supposedly NOS stripes repackaged in one box from what I recall the sales rep saying, never had a reason to doubt that back then since the wheel moldings I bought for my 69 from them were NOS in the GM wrappers. A few years ago I noticed the color widths on the decals weren't uniform like the Judge stripes I put on my vert from Year One back in 06 so I proceeded to flip out knowing I had to replace them for a better quality and that $225 I spent 27 years ago which translates to probably $500 nowadays was wasted. Now this new statement about the width has me questioning whether maybe they are NOS. The backing says 3M Scotchcal, just like the set of NOS decals with boxes that are on ebay right now. Is that evidence enough, or was it just that repop places happened to be able to use the same adhesive because 3M still made it? Were they repopping these decals in 1987? No matter how hard I stare at those pictures on the ebay auction, I can't tell if my eyes are playing tricks on me as far as the widths. I can see it plain as day on what's in front of me though.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-1969-GTO...8e9b98&vxp=mtr

and just for clarification, the decals are still in the box, not on a car, it's been 27 years and counting and I still haven't gotten around to restoring this car yet!