[denaliakitas]

Would really like to know how to truly identify a 63 421 super duty. He is supposed to have the original engine with it although not in the car, Supposedly was/is a dual 4 barrel car but unclear of how complete the engine is at this point. Here are the pictures that i have of it as well as the description in the ad. Any help on what to look for or check would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

1963 Pontiac Catalina· Sedan
Super Duty 421 · Driven 123,456 miles factory paint : Black
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1963 Pontiac Catalina
Super Duty 421
With factory hood scoop, two-door, solid car body great shape one dent in front passenger fender no rust on outer shell, needs front floor all windows are there but the front windshield is cracked won't respond to any is this available or any codes so don't bother trying SERIOUS buyers only, if u don't have the cash don't message this is to all the tire kickers wasting my time (have Motor) no transmission

[denaliakitas]

More pics....

[denaliakitas]

more pics.....

[denaliakitas]

more pics.......

[tom s]

The 63 SD car vins are in Pete McCarthys book,EZ to verify.Many of us on this board have the books if you want to post the vin.Tom

[tom s]

Don’t think I remember ever seeing a SD Cat with a radio.Hood scoops did not come on the SD cars,over the counter part.Tom

[61-63]

Get him to shoot you a picture of the vin tag. All but two of the real '63 Cat 2 dr HT sd car vins are in McCarthy's book. Then come back here and give us the vin he gives you.

[61-63]

Tom's post popped up while I was typing. I agree with Tom highly unlikely imo that is a real sd car. It is also an automatic.

[denaliakitas]

VIN is 363P140539

[Keith Seymore]

I don't see that VIN listed in Pete's book.

K

[Stuart]

So much for the car. It would be interesting to see if he's telling the truth about having an SD engine.

[denaliakitas]

Any ideas what the car would be worth as a 421 non SD car? As it sits....

[tom s]

you would need the PHS to confirm it was a 421 car first,being a auto will reduce the value.Someone could have put the 421 badges on the car at some time of its life.Tom

[denaliakitas]

Originally Posted by denaliakitas

Any ideas what the car would be worth as a 421 non SD car? As it sits....

$2800 is the asking for the car. Really a solid car, needs front floor pans but trunk, frame 1/4s are all solid. Was a race car most of its life. Is there a guide online somewhere that would have part number and casting numbers etc that i can print off and take to check the engine numbers? Did Pontiac stamp the blocks with a partial VIN somewhere a well? Thanks

[johnta1]

Try my website for the engine codes

Engine Codes

Search by year or engine code or any of the inputs.

The 63 engines may have a VIN on them.

[denaliakitas]

If there is a partial vin stamped in the block where would it be? Front pad like chevy's? I am not familiar with pontiac engines to know. For that master where is the engine code cast into the block. Thanks

[johnta1]

Engine code is stamped on the passenger side of block, below where the head mounts.
The VIN may be in same area. There will also be a 6 stamped digits below or above the engine code. (can't remember which for 1963)

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by denaliakitas

$2800 is the asking for the car. Really a solid car, needs front floor pans but trunk, frame 1/4s are all solid.

If the guy is only asking $2800, that's a dead giveaway he knows it's not a real SD.

[61-63]

Originally Posted by denaliakitas

Any ideas what the car would be worth as a 421 non SD car? As it sits....

A couple of years ago I sold a '63 coupe that looked like that car and another '63 four door that was better than that car both to Herb Patton for $1000. He had a guy with a long flatbed come down here and haul both of them back to Nebraska. The coupe was a factory 389 tripower four speed car and I had the phs papers on it. I wanted them both gone. Both cars were rollers no engines or transmissions. $2800 is way too much for that car imo. You asked.

[Drag Star Le Mans]

You need to put eyes on the engine and check the numbers. Also post pics of the engine.