2004 GTO AND ORIGINAL

[red70goat]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr_GTO:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by red70goat:
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Actually Nick, I think a lot of the "bashers" on here, including myself, are not so much bashing anyones ride but are using this forum as a way to reach the powers @ GM to give us a GTO we really want. Hopefully GM is paying attention to the people here on the front lines and using these forums for improving their product. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


" The Formula could be had for $25K. Did you buy one?"

&gt;&gt;&gt;Nope. Drove my 70 until it got to 278,000 and then bought a 94 740i followed by a 98 convertible C5....still have the 70.

"You wouldn't buy one even if they satisfied all your wants."

&gt;&gt;&gt; Actually I had been hoping to trade my high mileage 740i in on the GTO in 2004. It never showed.

"And they have improved their product. The GTO is MILES ahead of the last F-body," <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

&gt;&gt;&gt;Given that they've had 30 years to bring back the GTO I should hope so.

[Goathead]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The GTO almost never had the strongest engine in Pontiac's stable. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>In 1964, the elimination of the previous year's Super Duty engines and modifications left performance enthusiasts with three 421 cid V8s available, rated at 320, 350, and 370 bhp.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>389 V8 335 bhp @ 5000 rpm, 431 lb-ft @ 3200 rpm. 389 V8 (3x2) 360 bhp @ 5200 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In 1964, you are telling me that the 421 with 10 more horses was the strongest engine in Pontiac's stable? Come on, even Champ will agree that that is splitting haires....

[Anne's GTO]

My neightbor up the block, for his birthday, got a 2004 GTO from his wife. We took pictures of his car and my '64. Thought you would like to see.

A lot of people knock the car, I went for a ride and was very impressed.

[Trace]

You know, this forum is sometimes painfully reminiscent of standing in an autoshop class in highschool. "Mine's better'n yours...oh yeah, well if you weren't such a butthead...blah blah blah". Gee, guys,.. uh...when someone starts a thread does it always have to degenerate into who can get in the last zinger?

I just got back from another cruise in Napa Valley (almost 500 mi on my Impulse Blue Holden Heart Throb - day 2) & I for one just wanna kiss the Lutzmeister for having brought me this wonderful machine! Mine's exactly like John B's friend's ride ('cept she's in my garage :-), though soon the dressing will begin.

It would be fascinating to worm hole through time the guys who created that beautiful '64 original of John's - bring them to the here & now to try out the GM Holden division's interpretation of a GTO. I bet they'd like it a bunch, though they'd probably want to slather on a little more chrome! They'd be utterly shocked by the driving experience, but feel a twinge of pride that the original idea (large V-8 - RWD - compact car - reasonable price) began with them.