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bs78ta · 08-18-2003, 07:14 PM

Well so far the rollbar install has been a big pain and near disaster. Last nite the guy we had welding for us had finished welding down the rear plates. We were sitting there about ten minutes later the car starts burning. We finally get it out and what had happened was the new cars have plastic fuel tanks (like just about everyting else on the car) and it had gotten hot enough to melt the tank and ignite the vapors. Probably lucky that it was full or it probably would have exploded. Went today and got a tank and hoses from a salvage yard and the car is back on the road. It was a close call because we were in a shop with about 6 other cars being "modified". Makes me feel a little bit better that my '78 TA is a little heavier but almost all steel. We will get it finished up tommorow nite and we are using the removable side bars. Later

Butch

PONTIAC DUDE · 08-20-2003, 05:55 PM

If you run 9's Brian, you need:
A full cage.
Window net.
Seat belts.
And a Comp Licence.
Gloves.
Neck brace
A different heavier firesuit.
SFI shoes.

My car runs 150 mph+ and you could drive it with your little pinkie. Except on a bad track.

Maybe the tracks should get their acts together sorta like Montgomery for NMCA. I don't think it was the fast cars that caused all those wrecked cars.

Norwalk was one of the best tracks this year I have been to in a long time.

Bad tracks are dangerous, not fast cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Robert Imhof · 08-16-2003, 06:01 AM

Good luck installing it in one weekend

. Molly or Mild Steel Cage?

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old68goat · 08-17-2003, 06:13 PM

I don't have the rule book handy right now, but i raced a convertible and the book clearly states that they must have a roll bar at 13.99 or faster. Plus, ANY car needs a roll bar at 11.99 or faster. I was considering another street/strip car with t-tops and two tracks told me they were classified the same as a convertible. I 'think' the rule applies to cars that DO NOT HAVE PERMANENTLY AFFIXED TOPS.

Good luck with the installation. Also, you might consider installing a 'swing-out' driver side-bar ... which will make it much easier to get in/out of the car once the steel tubing is in there with you

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bs78ta · 08-16-2003, 03:35 PM

Skip, I might try Seguin one of these days. It is a 1/4 mile track right? Sealy is just 1/8 mile and I like to get the full meal deal. Good for tuning and practice launches though. Feels like going to a topless bar but keeping my eyes closed.

Butch

tikiklubracing · 08-27-2003, 05:09 PM

Officially NHRA says as of now the rules are the same. Unofficialy it looks like the new chassis tags will have punch outs as to how fast your vehicle will be permitted to run.

It looks like the 8.50 tag will be for door cars, street roadsters, and some altered cars, hints are that you won 't need any modification to cage until 8.50 sec. This could be limited to Comp. Elim., but don't hold your breath. There have been some pretty bad incidents this year with these cars and the reports are mounting to a point where they are going to have to make changes. They are mainly interested in the floor area. No hints from deep throat that it will affect ET brackets. BUT????

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Brian Baker · 08-20-2003, 06:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PONTIAC DUDE:
If you run 9's Brian, you need:
A full cage.
Window net.
Seat belts.
And a Comp Licence.
Gloves.
Neck brace
A different heavier firesuit.
SFI shoes.

My car runs 150 mph+ and you could drive it with your little pinkie. Except on a bad track.

Maybe the tracks should get their acts together sorta like Montgomery for NMCA. I don't think it was the fast cars that caused all those wrecked cars.

Norwalk was one of the best tracks this year I have been to in a long time.

Bad tracks are dangerous, not fast cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Owner of......The Quickest Pontiac Powered "REAL" Street car on the PLANET!!!!Will Race for Food.

Build it fast, build it right, build a Pontiac.

http://PontiacDude.cc<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I only plan on one 9 second pass at Atco, well, for this year anyway.

Still need my chassis cert', my license, firepants and shoes and gloves, and neckbrace.

Already got the jacket and everything else on the list.

If I had known it would be in the low 10's at this point, I would have already gotten the chassis cert' and tried for some licensing runs between now and Atco. Next year.

tikiklubracing · 08-20-2003, 06:15 AM

P-Dude, I've heard of new rules. Just on newly built dragsters. Must have kidney bars, no more single bar back there on new chassis. What have you heard?

BIGGERISBETTER-78 Catalina, 3650#, 13.750, 400 .060, 6x8, Q-jet. 15 yrs in NHRA tech ret. Next drag car, 78 Bonne Stationwagon.

thirdgen455 · 08-20-2003, 07:38 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TTS:
The more NHRA pushes, the more cars return to the street. What the NHRA forgets is that fact.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

you are so right.

tikiklubracing · 08-18-2003, 03:54 AM

Calling NHRA today.

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Ron · 08-26-2003, 08:53 AM

I agree. I just posted what was supposed to have been written by an NHRA tech person. If it was written by an NHRA tech person he obviously made a mistake or maybe mis print.

Ron

MoJo · 08-19-2003, 10:06 AM

There's always the throttle stop option. Take a good book to read rolling down the track.

David Holmberg · 08-16-2003, 12:44 PM

Tiki, that is the same problem we are having at Bradenton Motorsports park. What makes me mad is a STOCK LS1 F body will run low 13's...

Remember when I posted about this a while back? It's been hit and miss, but they are enforcing it most of the time...

PONTIAC DUDE · 08-26-2003, 05:32 PM

So what your saying is.............. I can run a T-Top car to 10 flat as long as the firewall and floors aren't modified and a 6 point roll bar is installed?

Is that with and without the T-tops installed?

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bs78ta · 08-16-2003, 04:29 AM

Went to Houston Raceway Park last nite with my son to race his 2001 Formula. He made his first run on motor only and snapped off a 12.50. Got around to get his timeslip and they tell him to go see the tech. Seems a T-top car is now considered the same as a convertible and needs a roll cage on any run under 14.0. He has the cage and we will be installing it this weekend. I do not know how many tracks are going to hold to this but HRP has to because they host a major NHRA event. JUst thought I would let some people know just in case. I hate to see a lot of the new Fbodies not run but this rule will affect many of them. They just have to figure out a way to let the Rustangs appear to be the better cars. LOL

Butch

Croaker · 08-17-2003, 07:46 PM

Hmm, rather than a swing-out side bar, what about bolt-in sidebars? I don't have a rule book, are they legal or what? I would think they would be a lot more conveinient for a fast street-driven car.

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