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Old 05-25-2001, 11:17 PM
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I'm not calling anybody a fool. I was just playing with Rash - that's all. I love Pontiacs and that's it.

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Old 05-29-2001, 11:56 AM
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Hey Rash, How much do you want for the rebuildable 455/400?

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Thank you Scott, and no Jim, Ken is not on my hit list. You see he ribs me, yes, but not while I am trying to sell something. You see it is the fact that I thought we were friends Jim, that's it, that is what pi$$ed me off. If that statement came from somebody I never met then it would have been handled differently. You should have been a little more astute with your posting that's all.

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I have run a block mount filter for many years with no blowouts at 75psi cold at idle,35psi hot at idle. Have used just about every filter you can screw on the housing. The trick? Did this about 15 years ago. Put your filter on the housing in a vice off the motor. Use a minimal amount of oil on o-ring. If oil gets between top outer edge of housing and upper lip of filter, wash out with carb cleaner. Take silicone and fill between housing and top lip of filter. Let silicone cure. No drips, no runs, no errors, no guard rail errors,that is.

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Any numnutt can race a chebby. No offence Rash.

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Old 06-01-2001, 05:31 PM
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I'm very pleased with the Nunzi plate. Been on there for nearly 3 years now, no drips or leaks. A friend of mine is putting together a 455 for his 75 T/A and just got a plate from Butler. I haven't seen it yet, but apparently it differs from Nunzi's in that Butler's uses the factory style gasket (Nunzi's is O-ringed). Like Nunzi's it is already drilled and tapped for -8an fittings.

In routing my lines parallel with the tranny cooler lines I was able to keep them away from header heat, and by mounting the filter housing on the radiator core support, I get minimal oil spillage when changing filters. I've seen guys mount them horizontally on the firewall and to me this makes no sense (but it sure does make a mess everytime they change the filter).

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What is wrong with #10 line for an oil relocating setup? I have had mine on for 3 years with no problems, am I looking for a problem to happen?

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Old 05-25-2001, 06:24 AM
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I was having a weak moment earlier sorry. I understand the whys its just frustrating fighting an up-hill battle and then having to pay more to boot.

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Sorry to see another fast Pontiac retire. Can't blame you for wanting to go faster. Chevy's definitely have the advantage of R/D and the market volume.
Pontiac racing is changing with the coming of new after market engine components. Unfortunately it's going to take time and money to achieve Chevy's level of performance. I hope in the next 5 years we will see 1000+ horsepower Pontiac engines a common thing on the dragstrips. They'll never be as cheap but, with time they will become be as dependable as the Chevy in the other lane.
When it comes down to it, it's how fast do you want to go and what you want to do it with. I would rather be a second slower and have a Pontiac under the hood than switch to a Chevy.
What ever the case Rash, good luck and hope you find what you're lookin for.

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Old 05-25-2001, 11:18 PM
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OK, OK. No harm, no foul.

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Old 05-29-2001, 12:34 PM
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Look Dude, I want to have fun racing...I don't want to have to spray 300 to 400 horsepower of nitrous to turn low 9's ONCE!

My motor makes PLENTY of horsepower to dip into the 9's IF I REMOVE THE EXHAUST...get it? If you don't just e-mail Scott Rex and ask him what is restricting my car. Fact is this...the car WENT 10.12 last year through the exhaust and it went 10.11 this year...I am just not ready to spray a car that already made over 730 horse with another 250 to get me there THROUGH THE MUFFLERS AND THROUGH TAILPIPES TOO


FACT #2...nitrous will blow up any motor and melt any piston Zeek...(I never said what you were insinuating in another post on this board)...I did say that I will break less parts with a Chevy than a Pontiac...hey Jimmy, throw a 500 horse fogger on your motor (when it's finally together again) and let's see how long your crank lasts...now do the same to a comparably assembled BBC and guess what...I'll bet you your bottom dollar that the BBC will take it...more than one time too.

FACT >>> BBC's have M U C H STRONGER CRANKS and a lighter reciprocating mass as well and can handle WAY more RPM than your motor ever could...PERIOD


I am not slamming Pontiacs now and I really can't wait to see Scott hit the 7's with that 90 of his and I would love to see the Dude get that Funny Car fixed. I will still be coming to these events, whether I race or not, whether I have a Pontiac or not. When I start seeing used IA blocks and Superchiefs on the market...I'll probably be back, but for right now I am changing.

Back to another subject...You know what Jim, you say that my car can't run 9's...why don't you come down to Atco this Friday and find out for yourself exactly how slow it is while I give her the final run before the motor and trans is removed and sold...you can sit next to the buyer and talk him out of it...



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Old 05-31-2001, 07:48 AM
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Paul, my problem is......I was born hungry. OK everybody that knows me, just shut up. Hahahahahaha. I'm getting to look like Misus. Except for the Sargent Carter haircut, LOL.
Scott Rex... come on now. your just sucking up for the wrapped shrimp.......wrapped shrimp.....hummmmmm, and it's only 7:43 in the morning and it's making me hungry.
If the car will run mid 9's and doesn't break any Pontiac related parts, then the million dollar question....... Do I need to ask? Why quit racing with Pontiac power. Inquiring minds want to know?
I like the break down responses to my questions. LOL.

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No offense taken at all.

I do have 1 question though...how the heck do you bolt the housing and filter back on the block? Do you run big tube headers? I know that it is impossible for me to do this procedure due do header clearances, or lack thereof.

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Old 06-01-2001, 06:31 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PONTIAC DUDE:
Race 8 times and change oil every week. LOL Rash, I'll take your old oil. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You pay for the shipping and you can have it...


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PONTIAC DUDE:
Oil filter clearance problems???? See, if people bought E-heads instead of D ports, then the oil filter would fit. Must be a D-Port header problem, Hahahahahahahaha.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have Wenzler High Ports Dude.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PONTIAC DUDE:
I run the Hooker 2" headers 70-81 Firebird.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So do I, I do not trust a #10 line and I have the screw on type relocator, not the plate.

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Old 06-06-2001, 07:38 AM
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Sorry, I think I mis-posted. I use the Hedman 2" 70-81 Firebird headers and the Fram long filter fits with no problems on the stock mounting location and can be removed between the oil pan and the headers. The only modification was to notch the lower control arms for clearance when the wheels come up to keep them from cutting into the pipe. Wheels come up????? Hummmmm, stock Pontiacs don't do that. Hahahahaha.

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Old 05-25-2001, 07:46 AM
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I dont consider it an uphill battle because I usually end up beating chevy guys, the other day I raced a guy that was bragging about how much he had in his motor and after I beat him I informed him that I had less money in my whole car. I have several chevrolet as well as pontiac products I drive and race the pontiacs, I play with the chevrolets. and as far as price goes, I am restoring a 59 impala an I am here to tell you "cheap" ha ha, if I had as much money in my 64 lemans as I have in this 59 impala the lemans would be capable of space travel.

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When the price of an IA block goes down to the price of a Merlin block, when there are REASONABLY priced heads (that actually flow), when there are redily available cranks, when parts start showing durability...I'll be back. Yes, I liked the idea of going fast in my Pontiac and I made the kind of power to go that fast...just sensible to convert. That's it. I'll still be at Norwalk and the Grove...just not in the Pontiac Powered Q16...even though my heads are Pontiacs Big Chiefs

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Paul... Does this mean your canceling your membership to the Loyal Order of Moose? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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Old 05-29-2001, 07:00 PM
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No harm, no foul, Paul. Hey, if you sell the car before Maple Grove and don't have a racer ready yet, I'll be more than happy to allow you the use of my pit space to set-up your BBQ. I'll supply all the beer, softdrinks, plates, napkins, and utensils, you bring the rest (LOL). We can even bring Berkheimer's dog, Arnie, over to keep any unfriendly's away from the food, and to piss on Misus' leg when he comes over.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PONTIAC DUDE:
If the car will run mid 9's and doesn't break any Pontiac related parts, then the million dollar question....... Do I need to ask? Why quit racing with Pontiac power. Inquiring minds want to know?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[QOUTE]Originally posted by Scott Rex:blew out an oil filter or 2, got dirt stuck in the carb floats, just plain had a run of bad luck[QUOTE]

Actually the oil problems happens after every 5 runs and it is pi$$ing me off to the point that I am getting rid of it. It is an Omen to me...that damn motor is like a bad dream, with hot chicks, you love it but you hate it. It makes great power and handles the RPM's to boot...but I cannot use the remote system on this car as there is just no room for it. I have 1 more housing to try out and if it works YAHOO!!! if it don't well it comes down to what sells first...the motor or the car. I have my eye on a nice tube chassis 69 and if I can get close to what I want for my rolling chassis I will be able to afford it...I then can keep my Poncho as I will have plenty of room to do what I have to. I will not use #10 lines for the remote filter setup and in my engine bay that is all I can fit, with the lines WAY TOO CLOSE to the headers for my taste...I did this before with my first motor and wiped out the bearings REAL quick with street driving, just not enough oil flow and that was a slow car. We'll see what happens...

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Rash, I have the same problem, and i have relatively small headers on my 73 bird. I was thinking about going with a remote set-up, but I haven't any good words about any set-up in particular.

What about the Nunzi set-up, is it pretty easy to install and maintain?

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