[Ray Cox]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 455Dave:
I think it's pretty obviuos that Ken isn't ignoring what was done over the years but he would like to see what HE will be up against this year. He has to step it up and also keep the shop running meaning his build and TNT time is somewhat limited.

Anyway my money is on Ken this year. Yesterday I drove up to the shop and threw some cash on the counter and told him to go buy some go fast parts. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[bmpmdf]

I would rather drive it out the back door !!! But as Brian stated, I think that is where the term originated when someone stayed in it thru the three cones or boxes.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Steve B. & Dave455.

naw...........LOL. Not wanting to know what the competition is or who has what in what with what since the wheel was invented and installed on a Pontiac.

Just curious who the

<span class="ev_code_RED">Top 20</span>


for the year 2004 are. That's all.
ET with mph. Type of ride with engine combo.

A simple request. That's all.

Then compare it with the year 2003 as far as the top 20 with ET & mph. Type of ride with engine combo.

Just to see the difference.

That's all I'm asking for.

If someone was really bored they could do it all the way back....year for year.
LOL.

Later and

Race Hard & Have Fun.

[Rob]

Ok, well I'll do the best I can with my list

2004 ETs

1....John Welter/R. Butler .......2002 [email protected]
2....Mark Kauffman ................1997 [email protected]
3....Bill Mellott .....................1997 [email protected]
4....Bill Kreech ....................1999 [email protected]
5....Mike Cooper ..................1963 Tempest........7.30@193
6....Paul Spotts ..................FED....................7.354@184 .47
7....Steve Barcek ...............FED..................7.50@189
8....Scott Rex ...................1997 [email protected]
9....Jim Yanoski .................2000 [email protected]
10... Todd Filson [email protected]
11... Jim Brady ...................RED...................7.87@170
12... Jack Gaydosh ...............2000 Bird............7.94@172?
13... Michael Packo...............RED..................8.034@172 .01
14... Shane Molinari..............68 [email protected]
15... John Wallace................RED................. [email protected]
16... Brad Smuland................97 [email protected]
17... Bruce Maichle...............79 Bird..............8.50??/
18... Jeff Sams...................63 [email protected]
19... Ray Cox.....................77? TA...............8.60@162
20... Maurizio Campolucci.........96 [email protected]

Look at that a D-Port still in the top ten!!!

-Rob

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Thanks Rob.

Now how about 2003.

[Ray Cox]

would love to see some weights next to those to bring them into prospective there are at least 2 cars over 3,000 lbs and atleast 2 cars under 2,000 lbs

[johnta1]

And what type of blocks and power adder?

1. John Welter/R. Butler ..... 2002 Bird ......... [email protected] ... Turbo ..... IA I
2. Mark Kauffman ............. 1997 Bird ......... [email protected] ... Supercharged ..... IA I
3. Bill Mellott ........... 1997 Bird ......... [email protected] ... Supercharged ..... IA I
4. Bill Krech ............... 1999 Bird ......... [email protected] ... NO2 ..... IA I
5. Mike Cooper ............... 1963 Tempest........ 7.30@193 ... Supercharged ..... IA I
6. Paul Spotts ............... FED ......... [email protected] ... Supercharged ..... OEM?
7. Steve Barcek .............. FED ......... 7.50@189 ... Supercharged ..... OEM
8. Scott Rex ................. 1997 Bird ......... [email protected] ... On Motor ..... IA I
9. Jim Yanoski ............... 2000 Bird ......... [email protected] ... NO2 ..... IA I?
10. Todd Filson ............... RED ......... [email protected] ... On Motor ..... IA I?
11. Jim Brady ................. RED ......... 7.87@170 ... On Motor ..... IA I?
12. Jack Gaydosh .............. 2000 Bird ......... 7.94@172? ... On Motor ..... IA I?
13. Michael Packo.............. RED ......... [email protected] ... ? ..... IA I?
14. Shane Molinari............. 68 Lemans ......... [email protected] ... NO2? ..... IA I?
15. John Wallace............... RED ......... [email protected] ... On Motor ..... OEM
16. Brad Smuland............... 97 Bird ......... [email protected] ... NO2 ..... OEM
17. Bruce Maichle.............. 79 Bird ......... 8.50??/ ... NO2 ..... IA I?
18. Jeff Sams.................. 63 Tempest ......... [email protected] ... NO2 ..... IA I?
19. Ray Cox.................... 77? TA ......... 8.60@162 ... NO2 ..... IA I?
20. Maurizio Campolucci........ 96 GP ......... [email protected] ... NO2? ..... IA I?

My brother also ran about the same et as me at Norwalk.

[aaronman]

Couple of corrections on behalf of the Minnesota guys: Bill Krech (not Kreech) is running an IA 1 block on the juice. Brad Smuland is running a Kaufmann built stock block 474.

[LiL Jack]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 455Dave:
I think it's pretty obviuos that Ken isn't ignoring what was done over the years but he would like to see what HE will be up against this year. He has to step it up and also keep the shop running meaning his build and TNT time is somewhat limited.

Anyway my money is on Ken this year. Yesterday I drove up to the shop and threw some cash on the counter and told him to go buy some go fast parts. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If I were a betting man I'd think you were going to lose some money.

You better have dropped off alot of money, cause he is going to need it.

[LiL Jack]

I went the same ET as number 20 but went 155 MPH. Ray even has that ET slip.
bwahahhaahahahahahahahahahahhahah

[John Langer]

A good question would be how many of those motors are still together and how many were one hit wonders??

[LiL Jack]

Or even who raced all year on one motor.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Jack post your ET, MPH and info as in Johnta1 post.

I'm keeping a copy of this on my computor and need all corrections and updated info as far as Block and fuel power for the top 20........ or others that were left out in the country with better times that would fit the top 20 for 2004. Thanks.

[Ray Cox]

Hey jack I do have that ET slip, with your 8.70, but I dont think they counted it because of the RED light

[LiL Jack]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ray Cox:
Hey jack I do have that ET slip, with your 8.70, but I dont think they counted it because of the RED light <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Damn LED lights!

[LiL Jack]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PONTIAC DUDE:
Jack post your ET, MPH and info as in Johnta1 post.

I'm keeping a copy of this on my computor and need all corrections and updated info as far as Block and fuel power for the top 20........ or others that were left out in the country with better times that would fit the top 20 for 2004. Thanks. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay, 1965 GTO IA1 511 cu. in. 3400# 8.703@155 MPH with 32/28 in the nos fogger.

That pass also had a 1.27 60 foot time and ran a 5.55@125 in the eighth.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Hey Ray. Ask Lil' Jack about the light he caught the year before when we raced........ <span class="ev_code_RED">Heads up.</span>

An almost deal.

Woulda been hard to beat that light.

[johnta1]

Sorry Aaron.
I corrected my post.

Just think if you tipped the bottle Aaron?

[Rob]

I have Krech spelled both ways, will change to one E.

I think everyone on the list has hurt an engine, most have made several passes, I think you could argue that none are one hit wonders.

Bill Krech may have been faster than Bill Mellot in 2004, looks like the fastest I have on Bill in 2004 was [email protected] he was a full .100 faster in the eighth but slowed. Maybe he'll chime in here and let us know how fast he's gone yearly. Not sure on Barcek and his yearly numbers.

2003
#1 Rodney Butler 6.91@202
#2 Bill Mellott [email protected]
#5 Bill Krech [email protected]
#6 Mike Cooper 7.450@175
#7 Jeff Kauffman 7.49@175
#8 Steve Barcek 7.50@189 was he driving?
#9 Dan Sweeney 7.50@186
#10 Paul Spotts [email protected]
Rex, Gaydosh, and Pickett ran sevens in 03 It's tough now to go through on memory Guess I'll start keeping dates when I'm copying numbers from now on.

I do remember that 2003 was the first time Jeff's digger wasn't the fastest Pontiac powered Pontiac at Norwalk since 95 or 96? Whenever Marty was running 7.69? Jeff had the fastest Pontiac that actually raced since the event started.

-Rob

[Tom Vaught]

Jeff Covey (Marty Palbykin's driver) ran a best pass in the 1996 time frame in the 7.40s (skipping second gear, 1st-3rd) on his first trip to Norwalk with the 25-1C Turbo Car.
He also ran as you mentioned a pass in the 7.60s and an inital pass in the 7.80s when everyone
else was in the 8s (with a door car). The 7.40 made him faster than the rails that year even
with the trans issues.

This was the year that EVERYONE SAID that you would "split the factory block" at 1000 hp.
How wrong everyone was! There was 1600 hp in that factory block, ran it for a couple of years too with no block issues.

Good list Rob, Hope this helps.

In 1996-1997 I was helping Marty and the Keens. In 1998 only the Keens.