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Old 12-01-2003, 10:51 PM
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The vehicle he will be using for this test will be a Firebird with a Pontiac engine.

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Old 12-02-2003, 12:33 AM
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So Cleggie is a traitor? switched to a chebby? if so, too bad. Steve www.pontiacheaven.org



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Old 12-02-2003, 06:04 AM
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He's been runnning a BBC for many years in the Super Stock ranks.
A couple of years ago his son was running a poncho powered '74 trans am. He still may be.

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Old 12-02-2003, 09:09 AM
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Didn't Clegg buy the H-O Racing SD T/A or was it someone else?

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Old 12-02-2003, 09:32 AM
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Kelvin email me at [email protected] with the componants you have and your asking price please.

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Old 12-02-2003, 11:53 AM
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Yes,John Clegg now owns the HO Racing 74 SD TA.
I think his son drives it.

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Old 12-02-2003, 12:56 PM
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last time I saw the son's car it was running low 10s with a D port motor. Not sure but think it was a 400.

dad's car is the the SS/GT classes and runs the "Pontiac" BBC motor.

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Old 12-02-2003, 02:10 PM
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yeah, that motor runs with 4X heads.

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Old 12-02-2003, 02:15 PM
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I think the rear suspension was leaf springs with ladder bars and floaters last time I looked also.

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Old 12-03-2003, 10:18 AM
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I believe Craig has joined PY forums now and will be posting soon.


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Old 12-03-2003, 01:44 PM
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here's a cool link to the Clegg cars.

http://www.superduty.co.uk/j-clegg.htm

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Old 12-03-2003, 04:08 PM
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Hi Folks, Craig Hendrickson here.

As John Wallace posted, I'm reviving the old H-O Racing TurboFORCE package. Current plans call for two test mule installs on Gen-2 Firebirds, one owned by me (76 Esprit) and one owned by John Clegg (74 Trans Am).

Initially, I'll just resurrect the original kit using a Rajay 301E and a blow thru QJet. Then I'll upgrade to a bigger turbo (maybe Garrett T6x) and Edelbrock's new EFI for the original Pontiac V8. After that??? Depending on the response, a commercial version may be produced.

More details are on John Wallace's website:
TurboFORCE Revival Project

As noted in an earlier post, I've recently chatted with Tom Vaught about this project and he had some good suggestions. Any feedback or comments are appreciated!

Craig Hendrickson, the "H" in H-O Racing Specialties. Now reviving the TurboFORCE kit. http://www.wallaceracing.com/TurboForce.html

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Old 12-03-2003, 04:22 PM
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Welcome Craig and good luck on the new project.
uhh....what about "reviving" the H-O Racing specialties company?
sorry Ken...had to throw that out.

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Welcome Craig!

I'm Very interested in a Blow thru Holley system with a slightly larger turbo? Possible?

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Old 12-03-2003, 05:46 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I'm Very interested in a Blow thru Holley system with a slightly larger turbo? Possible?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Larger turbo for sure. However, the original design air pressure bonnet enveloped the QJet carburetor, see these:

early prototype bonnet, bottom view

production bonnet installed, side view

The Holley fuel bowls interfere with the bonnet. Maybe an Edelbrock Performer (AFB) would fit.

There are several "pressure hats" commercially available that fit the Holley because they are perched on top; I'm sure you've seen them. However, I believe that these "top hats" leave a lot to be desired performance wise. The H-O pressure bonnet had several advanced aerodynamic features which significantly improved performance.

An alternative would be to enclose the Holley with a pressure box. Commercial versions of these are also available, but their performance again may leave something to be desired. An interesting varient is RTech's combination pressure box and intercooler. This was debuted at last month's SEMA show:

RTech SuperCooler with sideways Holley

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That's what I was afraid of. I already have a very nice blow thru Holley from Tom Vaught. But I could adapt a box for a holley.
I'm interested in the rest of the package though. Thanks!

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Welcome Craig,

All of my turbo experience is with motorcycles, but I am excited that you may produce a blow-thru system utilizing the new Edlebrock EFI. I want one! Question: Do you plan to include some kind of detonation/ignition retard or water/alcohol injection as part of the kit? And what compression ratios do you recommend for planned boost levels. Just thinking ahead.

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Welcome Craig.

Great news for us Pontiac Guys. I know that John (johnta1)has been drooling over the thought of putting a Turbo on his rail for a long time, but, hadn't pursued it. I'll bet he's been talking to you on ideas!

I think you'll find quite a bit of interest, thanks for your help.



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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Holmberg:
That's what I was afraid of. I already have a very nice blow thru Holley from Tom Vaught. But I could adapt a box for a holley.
I'm interested in the rest of the package though.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey, since I've talked to Tom V already, I can conclude that he's a fine and knowledgable guy. Besides, I haven't decided to market anything yet! So, hold your horses for at least one second.

Craig Hendrickson, the "H" in H-O Racing Specialties. Now reviving the TurboFORCE kit. http://www.wallaceracing.com/TurboForce.html

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wheelspin:
All of my turbo experience is with motorcycles, but I am excited that you may produce a blow-thru system utilizing the new Edlebrock EFI. I want one! Question: Do you plan to include some kind of detonation/ignition retard or water/alcohol injection as part of the kit? And what compression ratios do you recommend for planned boost levels. Just thinking ahead.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Regarding the "detonation/ignition retard or water/alcohol injection": Just today, another Pontiac fanatic has turned me on to the MSD6BTM (check it out). That totally solves the retard problem. Water injection is a crutch for poor gas or a mis-tuned sytem. With EFI, you probably won't need it.

Regarding compression ratio. 7.0 - 8.4 just like they came stock in 1971+. The CR vs boost trade-off is always in favor of boost.

P.S. I like your signature "Better lucky than good". It's especially operative in Las Vegas where I used to live.

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