[roundportponchos]

I found a 70 RAIV/4spd white/blue deluxe, am/fm st. & tilt in Sacramneto last month. It was in Cal. since new, still had orig. plate. I found it on traderonline. It was a very difficult deal to do.

[ramair2]

Yeah I saw that sacramento 70 ra iv ta on Trader also (vin L110136). I spoke with the previous owner at length a few times. Too bad the matching numbers RA IV motor is long gone. : ( From his description and the many photos he sent, it pretty much needs to be gone through in my opinion. Still its nice to find one of the 88. Given what full off restos run these days plus fact its not numbers matching, the $27,500 he was asking seemed to be a pretty fair price.

Good luck with it...

RA2

[Tygrr67]

I know of a car that was in North Dakota. I talked with him about 2 months ago and he said he sold it to someone in Wisconsin. This was a white car, 4 speed, no a/c with blue interior. This was a complete basket case. What I remember most about the car was that it was so rusty the VIN tag rusted off, but the old owner claimed he still had the tags. I do remember checking the date codes of the heads to the Data plate, and they were very close.

[racerboy]

The TraderOnline car that I see has the wrong heads. It has a set of 722s on it. It's also missing the RAIV air cleaner base and has the wrong fuel line (they used rubber line from the pump it seems!) And what's with those wheels? Where are the JWs? IMHO, if I was going to spend $100K for a car, I would expect it to be 100% correct. But that's just me.

[weranc55]

The blue car on line for 110k is not even a real ram air 4 car. The dealer bought the car at Mecum auction about a month ago and paid under 30k for the car. The car was at the last two auctions and did not get over 26k.

[Norwood]

Radio knobs, shifter, door panals, window cranks, steering wheel, gauge trim bezels. This car is not exactly original and thats just on the inside.

[eaglesan13]

I saw that Sacramento car in person. It was at an indoor consignment lot called California Car Corral in Rancho Cordova Califoria, which is right near Sacramento. The car was built in Los Angeles and sold new in Los Gatos California, which is right near San Jose, so it was an original California car. It still had the original California blue license plates on it. It had the wrong engine and a later model shaker mounted to the underside of the hood but it was a pretty solid body. The rear seat was gone and there was a rollbar in it and I think they had cut the dash to add some gauges, but it certainly looked restorable to me. The original rally II wheels had been replaced by mags. He was asking $27,500 and it was a driver. Heck, it's one of only 59 RA IV, 4 speed cars so it was definately worth the money.

[roundportponchos]

HI, thanks! eaglesan13. It was there for alittle while. The owner had it just for a month or so, he was not 100% versed w/whole history. The 70 raiv TA was a supersolid orig RAIV TA. All orig panels/tranny/rear! I did get rear seat. A prev. post lists it needed gone through, most do, but this car is a super solid orig. A prev. post also lists these cars @ 150k, so I must of got a great deal, given a 35k resto. It a RAIV CAL. TA. tilt/am/fm st. deluxe blue int. I really love it, & have gathered over 20 yrs a cache of nos that will used.
It was raced in 70/1 @ Laguna Secca through SCCA.

[horizontal attack]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by poncho-mike:
Several years back, I sold a WW out of a 70 T/A. The T/A was sold new in NC at a dealership in Asheboro. NC DMV did not show the title being transferred after about 1975, and the car was never registered again. The car was registered to a woman with a very common last name. I went by the last known address, and the houses had been torn down and replaced with a strip mall. The locals had all moved when the city began growing and commercial replaced residential. I wasn't able to find any information, other than the houses along there were mostly rental.

The car was taken off the road in the mid-70s, supposedly because it was wrecked. I bought the remaining parts from a guy in the late 80s. As best I could tell, the car was destroyed after the parts were salvaged.

Barry Martin at Sonic Motors also had a 70 T/A that I think was sold new in NC. I'm not sure what ever happened to that car.

There is a guy in western NC that has SD455 T/As and did a full restoration on a 70 Ram IV T/A.

That's about all of the Ram IV cars I personally know of.

Mike <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The car that was restored in western NC. is originally from Watkins Glenn NY. It was at TA'nat. this summer and is a stunning restoration of a very original car . The 70 TA that Barry had was indeed from N.C. and after resto went to NY. it is also a very nice original car . I also know of 3 auto's that have just surfaced and I have documented each to be correct .. These cars have a great survival rate and I have now confirmed at least 35 to exist .

[ramair2]

roundport: re: $150K for a 70 ra iv ta... id say that might be possible in this market for a frame off, *concourse cond and fully matching numbers* 70 ra iv ta 4speed...btw $35K for a concourse resto is insanely good! that or you plan to do a bulk of the work yourself. either way good luck to you...

[TA doctor]

The ram 4 on traderonline is a ram 3 car with a ww motor , and 73 seat belts. I have the ram 4 #'s and what color they came in and his didn't match up. I emailed him and told him about his mix up and he wasn't going to change anything. Go Figure. There is one in Arizona ( sorry can't disclose the city ) a blue on blue 4 spd. that was bought in San Antonio Texas . Trying to locate this guy. It's a job

[poncho-mike]

It is unlikely the Ram IV car that I owned the block out of is still around. While I have no evidence it was crushed, it was certainly stripped of all salvageable parts before I got to it.

I talked to a guy recently that knows the where the block is now. If you want to do some additional research, email me in person and I'll put you in touch with him.

Mike

[TA doctor]

get your pencils out

Norwood made 41 w/m20's
23 w/m40's
22 were blue
42 were white
Van Nuy's made 18 w/m20's
6 w/m40
3 were blue
21 were white

[roundportponchos]

I had my 69 RAIV TA done about 3 yrs ago. I had taken car car completely. I chased down all nos, took all stuff to chrome/mtr shops etc. The shop had had 750 hrs @ $30 per hr. I had all toll about 35 k. I agree now most shops are aboput $40/5, & if you don't do most oparts chasing & runing things around you could put 60/70k into it. I<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ramair2:
roundport: re: $150K for a 70 ra iv ta... id say that might be possible in this market for a frame off, *concourse cond and fully matching numbers* 70 ra iv ta 4speed...btw $35K for a concourse resto is insanely good! that or you plan to do a bulk of the work yourself. either way good luck to you... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[racerboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> It a RAIV CAL. TA <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Roudport,
Can you send me pictures of the EES system on this car? I want to make sure I have it set up correctly on my '70 Judge. My '70 T/A is a non-CA car.

racerboy

[roundportponchos]

Hi do you need pic of non cal? There were npne on 1970. 1971 was 1st yr for EES outside CAL.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by racerboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> It a RAIV CAL. TA <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Roudport,
Can you send me pictures of the EES system on this car? I want to make sure I have it set up correctly on my '70 Judge. My '70 T/A is a non-CA car.

racerboy <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Stroker 455]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by superdutybob:
There was a white 4 speed car that won stock class at the T/A Nationals this year. It was a concours restoration. That car is from North Carolina. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yep that was one beautiful T/A.I took a bunch of pics of that car at the T/A Nats.Very well done resto.

[brians]

Hi all, kind of new to these parts.

For those that are keeping track of these cars, thought you might get a kick out of this picture. This is how I bought mine in ’91. It had been sitting in a barn since 78. Don’t think PHS has a record of it being found. I never did ask them for a packet on the car.

The guy thought the engine compartment was too dirty, so he pulled the engine and fenders to detail it. It sat like that until I bought it. It is one of the Norwood built RAIV automatics.

Sold it about 6 years ago - one of few cars I really regretted selling.

Brian

[roundportponchos]

Did that 70 raiv go to guy in Mich.? I have PHS on it, if that's the car.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by brians:
Hi all, kind of new to these parts.

For those that are keeping track of these cars, thought you might get a kick out of this picture. This is how I bought mine in ’91. It had been sitting in a barn since 78. Don’t think PHS has a record of it being found. I never did ask them for a packet on the car.

The guy thought the engine compartment was too dirty, so he pulled the engine and fenders to detail it. It sat like that until I bought it. It is one of the Norwood built RAIV automatics.

Sold it about 6 years ago - one of few cars I really regretted selling.

Brian <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[brians]

Yes it did. That just might be the car. There was 32K on it at the time. (blue int.) As far as I know, it has never been at any public show or any write up done on it.

Never bothered to get the PHS on it myself. At the time I bought it, I confirmed the vin
with Pete McCarthy, so I never took it any farther.

The guy I bought it from knew it was rare, but I don’t think that translated into valuable in his mind. He kept calling it “one of those rare aluminum intake cars�

At the time I bought it, I needed another project like the proverbial hole in the head. I already had a 72 T/A and was right in the middle of doing a complete restoration of a 73 T/A, so the ‘70 sat for years before I even touched it. Ended up selling it still in pieces.