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Old 02-14-2005, 12:50 PM
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Slowbird, you better be the first in line to buy a pair when they're ready.

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What a guy cant be curious. Im just excited about all the new products that are coming out.

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Old 02-14-2005, 02:07 PM
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Here's a timeline for Slowbird:

December '03, AllPontiac buys out the rights to the IA block.

May '04, AllPontiac has IA-II blocks for sale and ready for assembly.

December '04, AllPontiac buys out the DCI head.

Will we see them for sale in May '05? Very likely. Just sit back and relax, there will be some more info coming soon, trust me.

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Old 02-14-2005, 03:09 PM
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Its alive and running. No tuning and just a very short pulls numbers we have are in the high 7s and the torque in the 7s near 5k. They said that it no longer sounds like a Ponitac. Can't wait. I leaving around 4:00 A.M. for Cerlli's

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Old 02-14-2005, 03:19 PM
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Very cool news all around!

Looks like we're an intake manifold and an affordable crankshaft away from some 800 to 900+ HP Pontiac crate engines!

Great work AllPontiac.com!

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Old 02-14-2005, 05:18 PM
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Pontiac Racers and Enthusiasts:

Today, we are witnessing history in progress with the very first dyno session of the new AllPontiac Tiger head designed by DCI Motorsports. I spoke to Bob at AllPontiac right after the first pull and he was so excited, it was hard to keep up with him! Things look very promising considering the carburetor was acting up, and they had to shut it off early in the pull around 5400. This project was a huge undertaking and I for one am extremely overjoyed with the progress Bob and Frank at AllPontiac have made.
It was very hard for me to make the decision to sell the Tiger Head. I was approached by many different individuals and companies that wanted to purchase the idea, and I had to make several very tough decisions:
#1 Do I try and continue on by myself with a limited budget,
#2 Take on an investor who has no interest in our hobby, just the financial return, or
#3 Sell the idea to a company that has a burning desire, like mine, to improve the traditional Pontiac engines success and push it to new levels.
I think you will agree that I made the right choice. Pontiac fans, rejoice!! This is only the tip of the iceburg. Along with this head, there are many new and exciting things and products that are going to happen for traditional Pontiac racers.
Hang on guys and gals! We are going to go from
0-100 at light speed and I can't wait!!!!

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Old 02-14-2005, 06:19 PM
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Don, I think you made an excellent choice by putting it in the hands of Bob and Frank. Now we will all see your head design at work at a much quicker timeline. That is very good news for the rest of us.

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Old 02-15-2005, 05:27 PM
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Absolutely Unbelieveable!!!!!!!!!

838 horsepower at a very low rpm of 6500. Even more impressive is it makes 800+ horsepower from 6000 rpm up. Remember, this test is simply a head swap. No other changes. Same cam, same intake, same headers, same compression and the Tiger Head still made an impressive 120 more horsepower (as cast with no porting) over the E-head that was ported to flow 340+ cfm. (Bob's previous combo with e-heads made 718 hp at 6800.)
Bob says everything looks great. Cylinder temps are even, spark plugs look great, no hot spots, and they have made several pulls, back to back.
This is a great time to be a Pontiac enthusiast. With this kind of out of the box horsepower available to anyone who wants it, who knows where this can take us?
I can't wait to see what a ported Tiger Head with 15-1 plus compression, sheet metal tunnel ram with two dominators, and matching cam and headers can do. We have just scratched the surface!

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6000 801 701
6200 818 692
6400 826 678
6500 838 678
6600 831 661
6700 835 654
6800 836 645
6900 829 631
7000 821 616
7100 827 612
7200 818 597


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Old 02-15-2005, 06:07 PM
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Wow!! I think I will have to get a set of those heads and an aluminum block!!!!

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Old 02-15-2005, 06:09 PM
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Looks like i will have to clean out my garage to raise more funds.

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Old 02-15-2005, 06:13 PM
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sounds great, im ready to buy a set as soon as they are available, i have a 565 ci waiting for a set, thanks for all the hard work guys, looks like my dream of a 1000 hp pump gas pontiac engine might be withing reach finally

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Now about those mid 9 second and quicker full body all steel 65 GTO's and mid seventies Firebirds with a very streetible cam and compression that we will shortly be seeing. Here chevie chevie chevie, we got something for your slow butt.

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Old 02-15-2005, 06:17 PM
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Great numbers but why did the motor go flat at 6500?Not enough cam?Not enough carb?Tom

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Old 02-15-2005, 06:25 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tom s:
Great numbers but why did the motor go flat at 6500?Not enough cam?Not enough carb?Tom </div></BLOCKQUOTE> If i remember right, the engine was originally set up for E-head/cam combo which maxed out around 6700-6900rpm?

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Old 02-15-2005, 06:29 PM
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That's great! Thanks to all.Thats impressive.Good luck.

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Old 02-15-2005, 09:02 PM
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I'm glad Bob said all of the sponsored cars will be getting a set.....hey,there's the UPS truck now...

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Old 02-15-2005, 10:20 PM
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tHOUGHT the e-head bracket motor made 771 hp at 6300 rpm ????

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Old 02-16-2005, 07:10 AM
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Here is a link to the engine I think the heads went on. Although it says the hp was 740 so that still makes it a 100hp gain.
http://www.maximumraceengines.com/512buildup.html

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So there is no piston swap needed to run the Tiger head?

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Old 02-16-2005, 09:11 AM
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SlowBird is correct. This was my motor at 718 Hp. And yes you do have to do a piston swap becasue of 14 deg for the E-head to Tiger at 12 deg. valve relief or recut the piston for both.

I will post more later.

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