Pontiac - Street No question too basic here!

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 02-05-2005, 10:16 PM
242177P's Avatar
242177P 242177P is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 1,873
Default

Don't know for certain, but I heard that Southside went out of business?

  #22  
Old 02-05-2005, 10:28 PM
Colin's Avatar
Colin Colin is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The ObamaNation we once called the United States of America
Posts: 2,101
Default

Most of the ones I destroyed the teeth were stripped from the pinion......had a couple that blew the spiders.

__________________
"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived."- General George Patton
"Perpetual peace is a futile dream."-General George Patton
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."-Thomas Jefferson
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security deserves neither and will loose both."-Benjamin Franklin
  #23  
Old 02-06-2005, 09:17 AM
Ryche400's Avatar
Ryche400 Ryche400 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: San Juan, TX (Deep South TX)
Posts: 539
Default

Ive seen several of my buddies grenade 7.5's. I had an 87 Monte Carlo with factory 3.73's (7.5). I ran several 10 sec passes, and quite a few 11's, and its still going. But ive also seen them break on 13 sec passes.. I guess its the luck of the draw.... But if i could afford it, i'd buy a 12 bolt or something...

__________________
  #24  
Old 02-06-2005, 11:31 AM
455guy 455guy is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 379
Default

Sounds like most kersplosions are at launch on stickies. A 400 or even a high revving 350 would minimise the shock of the torque and save those poor spider gears. I think I'll get new spiders and have them cryo treated and see what happens. I'll let everyone know how it goes. This will be a 95% street 5% strip car so I think I'll be fine.. Famous last words???? Heheheh

  #25  
Old 02-06-2005, 12:22 PM
Cliff R's Avatar
Cliff R Cliff R is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mount Vernon, Ohio 43050
Posts: 18,153
Default

I worked with a guy several years ago who was too cheap to upgrade. He ran a mid 70's Monza with a Buick V-6 and manual trans. He broke so many cone type posi units I lost count. Even had a few axles come out after blowing up the side gears and loosing the "C" clips off the axle(s). There are several versions of this axle around, around 1988 they upgraded to the 7.625" version, pretty sure they have larger axles? We still see enough of them blown up by whimpy SBC's to avoid them.......Cliff

__________________
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a Veteran!
https://cliffshighperformance.com/
73 Ventura, SOLD 455, 3740lbs, 11.30's at 120mph, 1977 Pontiac Q-jet, HO intake, HEI, 10" converter, 3.42 gears, DOT's, 7.20's at 96mph and still WAY under the roll bar rule. Best ET to date 7.18 at 97MPH (1/8th mile),
  #26  
Old 02-06-2005, 01:07 PM
79GP6.6L 79GP6.6L is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 43
Default

455 guy, I think the stock units are destined to fail no matter what. I toasted mine with a mild 400-powered street car (at the time). Stock converter, and I never ran sticky tires, always street tires. I took off from a light one day and boom! It gave me a few signs in the weeks before it exploded, but at the time I did not recognize them for what they were. This was years ago...and granted, I was not easy on it.

I have since upgraded to an Auburn diff and Richmond 373's. Seems stronger than the original setup, but in my mind I know it is still a 7.5" 10 bolt. If it goes again I'll be looking at other options. At the time, I didn't know any better.

Knowing what I know now, I'd leave the stock rear alone, drive it, and save for something stronger. Mine was good for about a year of hard driving before it coughed up some gears. Be nice to it, and it'll last longer...but what fun is that?

  #27  
Old 02-06-2005, 01:58 PM
455guy 455guy is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 379
Default

Yea, I'd like to have a 9" in there but I already have the 7.5 rear and don't have the $$ to upgrade. I'll be nice to it and only beat on it when needed !!What were the warning signs your rear was on the way out?

  #28  
Old 02-06-2005, 05:07 PM
79GP6.6L 79GP6.6L is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 43
Default

If I remember correctly there were two...this was about 10 years ago...During cruising I would sometimes hear a rattle from the rear, as if there was a rock or something inside one of the drums.

The second, it only did this two or three times, but from a stop I would get a clunk upon accelerating...if I had to guess I'd say it was caused by the pinion landing on a chipped/broken tooth of the ring gear. At the time I figured the parking brake wasn't releasing.

I've gained a lot of automotive knowledge and training since then, and I laugh that I never thought to pull the cover off the rear and check it out.

  #29  
Old 02-06-2005, 07:12 PM
455guy 455guy is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 379
Default

Hindsite is always 20/20 right ;o)????

  #30  
Old 02-06-2005, 08:25 PM
Colin's Avatar
Colin Colin is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The ObamaNation we once called the United States of America
Posts: 2,101
Default

Should add that NONE of the 7.5's I have destroyed were in drag cars...no sticky tires.
Did d some street racing but not with slicks, just plain street tires.

__________________
"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived."- General George Patton
"Perpetual peace is a futile dream."-General George Patton
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."-Thomas Jefferson
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security deserves neither and will loose both."-Benjamin Franklin
  #31  
Old 02-07-2005, 09:14 AM
Bill Eveland's Avatar
Bill Eveland Bill Eveland is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Glasford Il
Posts: 3,715
Default

If your looking for chevy 12 bolt, find one from a 64-66, they are about 60.5 " and wouldn't have to be narrowed. Only 1" wider than yours, you could probaly get by with your wheels. I think the g-body is about 59 1/2-59 3/4" wide.

__________________
Illinois Outlaw Gassers

6.27@107
9.97@131
  #32  
Old 02-07-2005, 08:53 PM
Don57 Don57 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 66
Default

It's too bad most of us A & G body guys don't have a few more options available. In my neck of the woods there are very few GN/442 cars let alone one that's ready to cough up a rear, and even fewer 12-bolt rears. I'm not 100%, but did I read that the 12-bolt started in 65, and there were few of them. Unlike the other Pontiac models withe 8.2 and 8.5 rears, it gets costly to upgrade.

  #33  
Old 02-08-2005, 12:14 AM
Colin's Avatar
Colin Colin is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The ObamaNation we once called the United States of America
Posts: 2,101
Default

An 8.5 would most likely be plenty strong enough.

__________________
"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived."- General George Patton
"Perpetual peace is a futile dream."-General George Patton
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."-Thomas Jefferson
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security deserves neither and will loose both."-Benjamin Franklin
  #34  
Old 02-08-2005, 08:04 AM
79GP6.6L 79GP6.6L is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 43
Default

Options? Well, you could always try this...
http://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/te...nguprear.shtml

Here's one more regarding the amount of power a modified 10 bolt will hold up to.
http://www.ws6transam.org/10bolt.html

Don't mind the links, I also own an 89 Formula. They use 10 bolts as well, but with different mounting points. And don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the 10 bolt. I'm just posting this for those who are curious about its durability.

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:02 PM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017