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Old 06-24-2003, 03:30 PM
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I am rebuilding my 389. Is there an easy way to turn the miles back to 0000000? Is this even legal?

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I am rebuilding my 389. Is there an easy way to turn the miles back to 0000000? Is this even legal?

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Old 06-24-2003, 03:41 PM
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It can be done, but I can't explain how. I suspect there may be a legal issue.

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Old 06-24-2003, 07:07 PM
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I lucked out mine just started over again.

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Old 06-24-2003, 07:53 PM
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I think that odometer tampering is a federal offense. (felony) That being said; I've noticed that a lot of restorations have set the odometers back to 0. I personally don't see a problem with this, as long as you check 'true mileage unknown' or whatever like statement is applicable in your state. In some states, cars over 10 years old are mileage exempt.

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Old 06-24-2003, 07:55 PM
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And by the way, there is no 'easy' way. Regardless of what you might have seen on TV, you can't do it by running a wire up the dash. You must completely disassemble the speedo and have he odometer in your hand to do it correctly.

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Old 06-25-2003, 06:00 AM
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I saw this in a movie. If I put my car on jack stands and put the car in reverse the miles will come off. (but I do not want my car to fly out the window). {dumb joke}

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Old 06-25-2003, 11:14 AM
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You would have to use a reversable drill, attach to the tranny end and let it run. It will take a sometime. Otherwise a spedo shop can do it but I do think it's illegal....

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Old 06-25-2003, 02:10 PM
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All you need to do is take a peice of masking tape and write 0000000 on it and stick it over the odometer.

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Old 06-25-2003, 04:08 PM
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Actually, the drill will need to run in the "forward" direction, or clockwise (holding the drill) to run the odometer backwards.

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Old 06-27-2003, 05:50 AM
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Last night I was pondering this issue as I had my gauges apart all over the kitchen table. You'd have to take the individual number wheels all apart from eachother. These were not designed to do that without very high risk of breaking the rod that holds 'em together and/or causing permanent misalignment. I suppose it may be possible. I tried rolling them back for a few minutes before I decided I didn't want to run my fingers 66 K miles (would have taken a month).
I gave up and decided I could live with a 66 K reading. Looks kinda natural for a 38 year old car. If you need to lie, you always have the option of claiming the mileage is original. I'll say that I have no clue about mileage. I'll just keep track of mileage on the engine and since restoration.

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Old 06-27-2003, 09:16 AM
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It can be done and takes about an hour or so. On a 66/67 anyway. I had done two parts gauges just to figure it out. You need to take the number roll out of the housing and carefuly forward the pins between the first two wheels and move across the wheel in the same manor. All the while holding it all together and rolling each wheel but not letting them run past to line each wheel. Once each wheel meet the next roll pin to net set. Its hard to explain but it can be done. Sort of like a tumbeler in a lock cyl. Bit of a puzzel. Having three hands would help.

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If you do this, don't sell the car in Missouri. Other states probably also have similiar laws.

http://www.moga.state.mo.us/statutes...99/4070516.htm

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Old 06-30-2003, 09:13 AM
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When we register a vehicle in Wisconsin there is a place to indicate if the odometer reading is actual or not. If the odometer has been reset, simply indicating it will then show up on the title as "actual mileage unknown". In that case, the odometer - as far as the state cares - is now out of the picture.


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I know this is an EXTREMELY OLD post, but looking through the search archives I came across this. Like Jeff said, it is easy to do, but the actual odometer dial must be removed from the speedometer. It took me about an hour tinkering around with it, but I got the dial to 000000 and set it back in...

Just wondering in anyone can help me, I want to know if they make new ones by any chance??? My big thing is on mine you can tell whe white numbers and tenths-in-miles wheel has yellowed as well. I'd like to refinish them so they look new again. How do I do this??

I'm almost afraid to take it into any local parts store and ask (in fear that people might not get that I'm resetting it back for the rebuilt engine) and end up walking out in handcuffs, ESPECIALLY because I live in government-rampant California.

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Old 11-28-2005, 02:22 PM
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If you buy a replacement speedo the odometer is set to "0" or a very low number depending on how long it was test run. The main purpose behind the laws governing odometers was that people were selling cars with rolled back odometers and representing them as actual low milage cars.
In Florida, there is a place on the title to put the actual milage or, if it's unknown/incorrect, you select milage unknown/odometer exempt.

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In this state if the car is older than 10 years they dont look at the mileage. Check with your state.

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Most states such as here in Florida, older than 25 years is mileage excempt (actual mileage does not need to be stated) I have no problem reseting after a total frame off resto wheras all mechanical components have been restored to new condition. In case of a simple engine rebuild, the rest of the mechanicals still have gobs of miles on them.

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The Federal odometer law, Title 49, United States Code, sections 32701-32711 (formerly the Motor Vehicle Information and Cost Savings Act, Title 15, United States Code, sections 1981-1991) prohibits disconnecting, resetting, or altering a motor vehicle's odometer with intent to change the number of miles on the odometer. The law requires that a written disclosure of the mileage registered on an odometer be provided by the seller to the purchaser at the time ownership of a vehicle is transferred. If the odometer mileage is incorrect, the Act requires a statement to that effect to be furnished in written form to the buyer.

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OK

I found this post after searching the forums for an answer on how to reset my odometer to 0. There is one explanation in here but I found it very hard to understand but that may just be me. I figured it out and it took me all of 15 minutes and 10 of those was thinking about it. I figured I would explain how I did it so maybe it would be a little clearer for anybody else who wants to do the same thing.

Just to clarify the only reason I reset mine to 0 was I am just about to put a freshly rebuilt motor and trans into my car and when I got the car the odometer was not working any ways so there was no telling how many miles were on the car

First you have to completely remove the odometer from the case so that you have the rod with all the numbers on it in your hand.

Set the 1/10ths wheel to 0.

Now take the stop tab (The metal forked tab that locks on the bar on the housing) to the immediate left of the 1/10th digit and rotate it towards the top of the odometer. It will only move about a 10th of a turn. Now rotate the 1/10th 0 all the way around in the direction that the numbers would be going up until it stops.

Once again rotate the stop tab immediately to the left of the 1/10th digit in the same direction until it stops again.

Keep repeating this process until the 0 for the ones wheel is at the top and the stop tab is 180 degrees opposite of it (on the bottom)

You should have the 0 for the ones digit and the 0 for the 10ths digit side by side with the stop tab between them at the bottom.

Now repeat the process for the next stop tab to the left.

You will have to rotate both of the wheels you just lined up together and repeat the process above until you have the 10th, ones and tens digits all set to zero with the two stop tabs 180 degrees opposite from them.

You keep repeating the process rotating all of the zeros that you have set together until you reach the last digit.

Then reinstall the odometer into the case with the stop tabs all locked onto the bar in the housing and you have a 0 mile odometer.

It sounds way more confusing than it is.

I did this a few hours ago so I'm going off of memory so if it doesn't work turning things in the direction that I stated above reverse the direction and all will be good.

If you have any questions feel free to PM me.

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