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Steve,
Have you had a chance to send your original emissions decal to Dave at ECS? I have the same car as you and want to buy an emissions decal from Dave, but he needs yours as a template. I sent him my trunk decal and he is using that as a template for his catalog. ECS's work is extraordinary in the Mopar and Ford world and Dave is just getting into GM work. There is no comparison to the stuff that is currently out there. He is trying to build his GM offerings and asked to spread the word that he is looking for good original GM decals like emissions, air cleaner, trunk, glove box, air cleaner, etc. He will make you a copy for the trouble and will build his catalog to offer other enthusiasts. Thanks Frank |
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Just got my VIN decal from ECS today and it is extraordinary. Right color and font. They typed in the VIN number and other manufacturing specifics and it looks exactly like the original. Unfortunately my trunk spare tire decal suffered from too many years in a damp environment(maybe thats why it came off the trunk lid so easily) and there was too much missing for Dave at ECS to make a new template. If anyone has an original 1972 firebird trunk spare tire decal, please take a good digital picture and send it to Dave. With the dimensions from my paper decal and the details from a good picture, he can reproduce an exact replacement. Also need an emissions decal for the core support so anything there would be appreciated as well.
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Can he replicate one from a picture? I don't think I can peel this one off and save it:
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Seeing the differences made me wonder about the air cleaner repro. So I pulled my original out to compare. Check out these differences in the 455HO air cleaner repro sticker and original:
Red outline is WAY too thin, the inner white circle on the O is not symmetrical...all in all, though very close, but NOT exact. I will try and send this one off for duplication, unless there is a better one out there, I know my repro one is over 10 years old. Also posted an original aircleaner Keep your GM all GM sticker. Don't know about the repros of these, but I'm sure they are not the caliber that this guy can make. ANYone know a good way to take these things off without butchering them?
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Pat Brown Last edited by PB; 08-03-2006 at 03:41 PM. |
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Pat - Thanks for posting those pics. I really like the look of the original air cleaner decal with the thicker red outline. If Dave reproduces these, I'm in too!
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1971 GTO 455 H.O. Ram Air Nordic Silver - Black |
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Just emailed him the pics and info, we'll see what he says. Is he available to talk to by phone? I haven't checked his web site that close yet...
Yeah, I like the thicker outline too....I always wondered if that repro sticker was "correct" or not. Didn't know till I looked...didn't have that original till a few months ago. Pat
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Dave's work is outstanding. He sent me the door vin sticker that is nothing like the junk you get from the catalogs - or the one on ebay for that matter. I sent him my battered original paper spare tire decal, in conjunction with some digitals or originals and he will reproduce that. Get him good originals and he will make outstanding reproductions.
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I"ve emailed him, but no response
Is there a good line of communication to get a hold of him? maybe I sent to wrong email addy?
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Dave's really busy getting Mopar stuff ready for the Mopar Nationals. Try his bus number: 636 207 7767.
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Steve the only thing that I can see is the characters in the boxes look a little heavy. Not much but a little when compared with the original.
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Survivors, frameoffs etc http://community.webshots.com/user/firstgenaddict 68 GTO HO 4spd Alpine Blue over Parchment headrest (paused while I restore other people's cars) 70 Judge Conv. RAIII 4spd 4.33 I painted for a friend. http://rides.webshots.com/album/187328041oxAXRI |
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They are the exact same as the original. He uses the originals, scanned and copied to make the prototype (which that one is, its not the finished piece he has some more adjustments to make)
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I just received the final version of the emissions decal and it is awesome. He sent me back my original as promised and the new one. He also did a door conformance decal for me as well. I cant stress enough how accurate this guys work is...simply amazing. It is even made as close to the same way the factory did them as possible given the advances in technology. (the originals were reverse silkscreened on clear laminate material) Give Dave a call (and your business). He also did a really neat dealer bumper sticker for my 70 Dodge Charger. So now he has a template for those dealer decals from back in the 60's and 70's if you want him to make one up for your particular dealer.
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Sounds great Steve. Now I can order the stickers for my car. I'm sure alot of people appreciate you doing that.
Thanks, Dave |
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Thanks@!!
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Pat Brown |
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Hi I was wondering if anybody has heard anything recently from Dave @ ECS about any Pontiac decals?
After reading the above posts I contacted him last August and, after some friendly discussion, sent him the original Emissions, air cleaner and coolant decals from my 70 Formula. I also sent along a copy of the current Ames supplied repop to compare and use for missing info as the original emissions one was rough. Dave said it was quite useable. After a couple months the originals were returned to me. Dave seemed quite appreciative and told me he should have something worked up "shortly" to show me and as above, offered a couple of freebies in return. Nice gesture but I'd be more than happy to pay for accurate repops if I have to. The main point of sending mine were to help get some more accurate reproductions on the market. Anyway, I waited a few months and sent him an email as a follow up in April but heard nothing back. I did the same 2 weeks ago but again no reply. Earlier this week I went directly to the ECS website and used their "contact us" and asked again about the status of the decals. Three days and I've heard nothing. I've checked my spam filter to make sure a reply wasn't being blocked but its A-OK. At this point I'm more disappointed rather than anything else as Dave seemed like a straight up guy and our back and forth was brief and friendly. I'm not out anything other than the s/h to get the decals to him but I think I'm entitled to a reply. Does anyone know anything more? Is ECS maybe going through some problems or has Dave maybe left them? Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this. |
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I'd imagine they are probably traveling, as this is the major show season and they're on the road for extended periods of time.
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I just spoke with Dave yesterday afternoon on the phone. He is going to make an emission label and door sticker for me.
Dave |
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Thanks for the above responses. I guess maybe the best course of action would be for me to phone Dave rather than depend on email.
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Definitely call Dave. It looks like they either have a ton of emails or your address is getting filtered out of their emails.
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Ditto what the others have said about Dave. He is a perfectionist so he may be playing around with the decal material or the font to get it right. I also sent him my trunk decal for my 1972 T/A but he returned it to me because it was too far gone. He's defiinitely a stand up guy but this is a sideline for him so response time on new stuff can be a little slow.
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