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#1
12-02-2006, 06:47 PM
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i will have to check and see.
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#2
12-02-2006, 08:51 PM
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So why is OK for you guys to say it is real, but if I stand by my belief it is fake I am supposed to let it go?
Sounds like a double standard to me. |
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#3
12-03-2006, 09:43 AM
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Well, it looks like we are split on this beautifully optioned Black/Black Judge.
Is it a new benchmark? 400K is some big coin for a HD Judge. The people who know aren't talking? Last one that sold was SWEETMUSCLE's car who seems to know a lot about these 70 Black Judges. Here is a link to a thread: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=461904 |
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#4
12-04-2006, 11:29 AM
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Because i looked at the car personally.Its real. |
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#5
12-03-2006, 11:31 AM
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does anyone know how many 1970 judges were built with 4 speed and air?
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#6
12-03-2006, 11:36 AM
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BOSS-you can buy milts car for 1 million!that would really have these guys reeling.
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#7
12-03-2006, 01:35 PM
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I need a 70 HT to round out my collection, already have the one vert I needed.
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 |
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#8
12-04-2006, 02:10 PM
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"It is real" does not refer to the car. I have no doubt the car exists and is "real." I do not question that 1966sprint looked at the car and accurately described its condition.
What is not real, and what I believe to be fake, bogus, staged, contrived, etc. is the ebay auction sale price of $400,000. There may be some who want to believe it actually sold for that amount, and they may have understandable reasons for wanting to believe it. But plain old common sense and reasoning says it just didn't happen. The rumor that Joe of the parts place is involved further removes any credibliity from the "sale." I have taken a firm position on this, but I HAVE NOT and DO NOT mean to offend anyone here with my comments. If I have offended anyone here I sincerely apologize. (Joe excluded) You may wonder why do I care, or what does it matter to me if there is a bogus auction on ebay? It doesn't have much meaning to me, I just don't like to see BS go unchallenged. There is however a real consequence to anyone looking to buy a similar car. If a seller has a car priced high and justifies his price by saying "I saw one sell on ebay for $400,000" then your only choice may be to pass or pay more than it is worth. I have given this too much attention. I agree with gregsgtos, I should let it go. |
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#9
12-07-2006, 12:16 AM
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The black Judge auction ended. Then it disappeared off the face of the earth! It was at http://motors.search.ebay.com/?from=...52758716&fvi=1
That is weird how a completed auction could disappear without a trace. Let's investigate. Here's what I found... * The auction ended Friday, December 1st, 2006 at 12:05:54 PST. I remember seeing it posted as completed. Then it went "away". * That auction link now goes "nowhere" * The seller was juniorsamples123. I know that because I sent him a message about the car and have that record of it. * He has been an ebay member since Mar-15-05 with 90.3% positive feedback. * His user history does not show that auction as completed OR current. It's just plain "gone"!!! * If I click the link for the auction in ebay's "My Messages" section I get this message: "This listing (330052758716) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number. If the listing was removed by eBay, consider it canceled. Note: Listings that have ended more than 90 days ago will no longer appear on eBay." * If I try to click on his user ID to ask him a question, I get this goofy message: "The form is not available at this time. You are attempting to communicate about an invalid item." * Nobody gets their auction "erased" from ebay and still retains their user ID without a suspension, right? * The thumbnail image of his car is still available on ebay at http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/33...87168080_0.jpg Tonight I sent him a message about one of his other past auctions that was still a valid auction number. Here's what I asked him... "What happened to your black Judge on ebay? Me and my GTO-loving friends were checking back in to see what the selling price was. It does not show up on your "current" or "past" auctions. That's weird, huh? Is the car sold? Tonight, he replied, not fully answering my question... "CAR WAS SOLD THANKS FOR LOOKING, MAYBE NEXT CAR!" So that's what I know. Who can provide the name of the buyer? Or who knows why the auction is "gone" from ebay? He stated that the car DID sell. So is ebay aware of that fact? |
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#10
12-07-2006, 10:33 AM
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Guys, remember that ebay only charges a flat fee (of around $40) for sales of cars so it's a very cheap (money-wise) publicity stunt..These things happen more and more today because of what these cars are demanding so guess what may appear on BJ in Jan/07?? I think the car never sold to anyone and someone just made their car look like it is now that much more valuable by artificially inflating its price thru a great medium called ebay...
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#11
12-07-2006, 10:50 AM
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Please tell me if it's me or is this just the Pontiac side of the hobby? Does the LS-6 cars have the same shenanigans? The Hemi-Cudas?
Oh well .... |
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#12
12-07-2006, 11:01 AM
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After talking with a couple people i found out that someone hacked the sellers account and started sending second chance offers to the lower bidders. Im not suprised ,that happened to me a couple years ago. Ebay then pulls the listing. I hope no one falls for the scammers second chance offers.
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#13
12-08-2006, 08:10 PM
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"Hello the car did sell and I received the deposit. A few days later the auction was high jacked and had several second chance offers on it. Ebay then pulled it and had to restore my account. In doing that they lost the orginal auction. They finally got me back on line. Those jerks from the UK steeling peoples pass words thanks and have a Merry X I am will the 400K" The last sentence doesn't make complete sense with the typo. I think he's reinforcing his assertion that he got $400,000 for a car. Under normal circumstances, the winning bid amount is shown next to the auction history. The words "private auction" would be next to this one. But ebay has no record of anything connected to this sale now? |
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#14
12-08-2006, 09:06 PM
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I received two fraud warning about second chance offers on this auction as I asked a question while it was ongoing.
The standard "canned" dont do anything outside of ebay, fraud alert, dont fall for second chance offer warning message. I bet it was jacked. Have received these before but not two in a week. |
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