[gregsgtos2]

is that a retractable judge?

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by gregsgtos2

is that a retractable judge?

Nope, just the hemp carpet backing burning from the exhaust pipe heat.

[Pontiyak]

He is just ROCKIN' with the 90.3 % feedback !
Interesting to read the replys....

[JUDGEMAN70]

I know of another ram air 4 70 black on black judge in Rockford Ill. Car is currently being restored.

[Judge273]

Next bid meets reserve? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-...QQcmdZViewItem

[70ra455]

You must have copied the link wrong. The car is still going. It's at $103,000 and it doesn't say "Next bid hits reserve."

My prediction of $110,000 may have been too low. I hope people don't get stupid and start bidding higher from this board thinking the reserve is $785,000 and then they get stuck with the car at $150 or so and they don't have the money!

He seems to have the real deal and knows about it (still can't understand the missing wheel well molding but I'm sure I could live with the car as is for now!

We've got two predictions so far. My $110,000 and Paul's $150,000. With 9 days to go it certainly seems that Paul is going to be much closer! Happy Thanksgiving Paul!

[robz]

Notice he does not state this is the only 1970 Black on Black RAIV Judge 4 speed but rather the only one with these options (Power Flo Ventilation,Hood Tach, 4 speed, etc,...) in the questions area

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

...175-225k on the bidding....

I'll stick with that range. If have to pick one number ... I'll pick 185k.

The link Judge273 posted is a frame off resto 70 GTO Vert III/auto. BIN of $7800. Scam Slammers had bid it up to over 85.5 million dollars. Now it's removed.

[JLHarper]

Guess they were not intending to drive it in the rain either....sans the wiper arms.

[allen smith]

It appears from the photos that it has the incorrect 15 x 7 wheels instead of the correct 14 x 6?
i hate those 15s or even the 14 x 7 and if I was bidding it would definetly have to have the correctly coded wheels along with everything else

[70ra455]

Good catch on the wipers! I didn't notice.

[70ram4]

Happy Thanksgiving to all

[robz]

These look like 14x6 wheels..not sure of code but they don't look like 7"

[BLKBRD]

I'm with BVZ, I think this one could easily close in on $200k, if it doesn't surpass it. My guess is that we'll never see the end of the auction because someone will work out a deal and the seller will end it early.

[toomanybirds]

Remember that this is a private auction and the "bids" may be nothing more than the seller playing games.

I will be amazed if a legitimate buyer goes for this car with the limited description, bad feedback, and negative attitude of the seller.

[JLHarper]

A rare, highly desireable RAIV JUDGE and a "restored" car. Resto to one is paint and run (for sale) to another.

Even with fresh looking paint on ext I see
some "question areas" in engine bay: older looking rad shroud, paint old and faded around hood latch area, top of core support, water spots, inner fenders paint "old" looking, wrong battery. Chrome on valve covers looks old.

[dr-doug]

Cars of this "apparent" pedigree, if it were in my possesion, and I was a seller, would have a dedicated web site with an associated video with a complete walkaround. Along with that a hundred or so pictures. All paperwork and history listed, along with a question area. EBAY would just be one of the exposure areas to link to the web site. There are ton's of collectors, but many who are busy making the money it requires to buy this caliber of car. If you can give them as much information as possible prior to them seeing the car in person, your market would be probably as good if not better than running the thing through a major auction, and much, much cheaper. Hell , I've never seen a Barret Jackson auction, or been to a Mecum.

I should set up a web site myself to host those types of cars for sale, with the type of information I mentioned above, and do it for 1% commision, after a hundred sales, I could afford one of these jewels.....DW

[Silver Judge]

I agree Dr. Doug !
So little info, so many dollars involved. Sheesh, boxes of cereal have more product info than this thing

[orangegtos]

Dr-Doug, I agree with you completely. I think the reason this car is black is because of the shady deal someone is trying to pull. The all of the comments made by the seller seem very measured and calculated. Like I always say, buyer beware!

[north]

what a lousy listing!!!
lousy photos (why not upgrade from the disposable drugstore camera)
lousy info (i.e. none!!!)
missing a wheel moulding and wiper arms
no judge emblem on glove box (he does not say in his story how he plans to install properly the emblem back on the assembled glove box door-hopefully for 785k he will not clip the pins off and use sticky back tape)
repop bucket seat moulding falling off
how do you manage to install a ram air 4 aircleaner on crooked (with the second preheater)
at least park it so it is not sitting cock-eyed partly on the lawn and partly on the asphalt.

i would feel safer going for one of those $6,900 BIN judges than bidding on this car.

a few words of advice to the high bidder (assuming he is a legit bidder): hang on to the deposit until you see the: car, title, PHS (get your own copy in case of tampering), before resto photos, "proof" of numbers match (whatever the heck that is), car history, resto bills, etc, etc, etc. (you know, the stuff a guy selling a $10k car is happy to provide up front)
someone is going to be a thanksgiving turkey and someone is going to swing the axe
in the name of god, if you really want to get screwed over, have the class to get screwed by a first class scammer who put some effort into fleecing you.