[dda72]

Trying to weigh the advantages to justify the cost of purchasing an aluminum block vs IA 2. Current weight is rather heavy at 3580 lbs. with driver and taking 100 plus lbs. off to nose of a 72 Firebird would definetely be going in the right direction. Anyone running the KRE aluminum block? Did it spec out OK?

Thanks,
Dwight

[BVR421]

there is also a IA11 aluminum block so you have choices.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Originally Posted by BVR421

there is also a IA11 aluminum block so you have choices.

Ditto.

Just covering bases. Remember if you buy any K&M block according to their ad (read the webpage) you have Just 10 days to find any issues for a return.

[Region Warrior]

Originally Posted by PONTIAC DUDE

Ditto.

Just covering bases. Remember if you buy any K&M block according to their ad (read the webpage) you have Just 10 days to find any issues for a return.

Sounds like buy at your own risk.

[dda72]

Very good points. Who sells the aluminum IAII block?

[PONTIAC DUDE]

I know i won't get a commission on this. Wink, wink.

But you can buy it direct from AllPontiac.

http://allpontiac.com/contact.html


If your wanting an engine built, then I can do it assembled.

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by dda72

Very good points. Who sells the aluminum IAII block?

www.allpontiac.com

[Brian Baker]

Dwight, you really need to check the archives to review what went down with KRE/K&M and the MR1 blocks. Given their poor track record of customer service, I think a person would have to be nuts to even consider spending money with them now, but that's just me. There are KRE loyalists out there (who have yet to be screwed) that feel otherwise. Talk to everyone and decide for yourself, but remember, just because it's cheaper doesn't mean it's better..."penny wise - pound foolish".

[ventura7211]

What was the final diagnosis of Cooper's IAII aluminum block that grenaded a year ago? There are pages and pages on the KRE blocks destruction, but I never read the cause of that particular IAII to come apart. TIA

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by ventura7211

What was the final diagnosis of Cooper's IAII aluminum block that grenaded a year ago? There are pages and pages on the KRE blocks destruction, but I never read the cause of that particular IAII to come apart. TIA

Only failure I'm aware of from Cooper in 2006 was at Norwalk, when he broke the front of the crank snout off the crankshaft. That's not the fault of the block, that's from overdriving a large roots blower. Hemi and BBC crank snouts are bigger than a Pontiac's and can handle it better.

[ventura7211]

Originally Posted by Brian Baker

Only failure I'm aware of from Cooper in 2006 was at Norwalk, when he broke the front of the crank snout off the crankshaft. That's not the fault of the block, that's from overdriving a large roots blower. Hemi and BBC crank snouts are bigger than a Pontiac's and can handle it better.

Larry Cooper, NA bird, hear the mains fell out of the block but you know how rumors go.

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by ventura7211

Larry Cooper, NA bird, hear the mains fell out of the block but you know how rumors go.

OK, wrong Cooper (LOL). Actually, that failure was discussed on the board. The consensus was it being a result of standing it on the rear bumper too many times and starving the mains without pulling it apart for inspection. Tom Vaught weighed in on that one as well, do a search and you'll find it.

[BILL BOWMAN1]

I'd use the one that is track proven, reliable, and backed with customer service.

[johnta1]

Like this one?

Special Orders: All special orders are non-returnable and non-refundable. Special orders may also include prepayment. Special orders include, but are not limited to the following: any CNC package, assemblies, valve train components, engine blocks, special machining and/or labor operations.
Warranty Returns: All merchandise returned for warranty consideration, inspection, repair, etc. must be sent prepaid and insured. Included with this return must be the sender's name, address, phone number, and explanation of the problem and work to be done. A return authorization number must also accompany the return: this can be obtained by contacting AllPontiac.com/ Indian Adventures LLC., at 804-794-6777. AllPontiac.com/ Indian Adventures LLC., will ship warranties back in the most cost effective way. Any additional cost for freight upgrade will be at the customer's expense. This warranty covers replacement or repair of the product only and does not cover the cost of removal and/or installation. There is absolutely no warranty on the following:
A) Any products used in racing applications.
B) Any product that has been physically altered, or improperly installed or maintained.
C) Any product used in improper applications, abused or not used in conjunction with the proper parts.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Originally Posted by dda72

Very good points. Who sells the aluminum IAII block?

Before conjecture and such sets in what are your goals and hp/torque levels you want? What are your plans.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Like this one?

?????

A, B, C are normal aftermarket performance parts statements. But I don't see a 10 day return policy.

[Overkillphil]

Hmmm, according to those terms, no coverage whatsover if used for racing.

I suppose the bulk of their business is little old ladies and traveling salesman who want a wee bit more power to get out on the freeway!

[dda72]

Pontiac-dude, the goal is 5.80-5.90 in the 1/8 mile with a 72 Firebird weighing 3580 lbs on 10.5 tire naturally aspirated. Current set up runs 6.35 @ 105 MPH with RamAir IV heads so hopefully 925-950 hp would get very close. The thought was an aluminum block would save weight on the nose along with aftermarket strength compared to a stock block. After reading some of the posts I need to do more homework for sure!

Thanks,
Dwight

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by Overkillphil

Hmmm, according to those terms, no coverage whatsover if used for racing.

I suppose the bulk of their business is little old ladies and traveling salesman who want a wee bit more power to get out on the freeway!

Name one, just one vendor, regardless of what vehicle make it's intended for, that warranties a part for use in racing applications.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Originally Posted by dda72

Pontiac-dude, the goal is 5.80-5.90 in the 1/8 mile with a 72 Firebird weighing 3580 lbs on 10.5 tire naturally aspirated. Current set up runs 6.35 @ 105 MPH with RamAir IV heads so hopefully 925-950 hp would get very close. The thought was an aluminum block would save weight on the nose along with aftermarket strength compared to a stock block. After reading some of the posts I need to do more homework for sure!

Thanks,
Dwight

Unless money isn't an object, it can be done with the Aluminum block and under 1000 hp.

But for long term throw anything to it live forever. I would use the Iron IA II block and live with the nose weight. There are things you can get away with to make a front heavy car hook. Just ask those SS and stock racers. And some illegal stuff too. LOL.