[Lloyd-TX]

My good friend Mike Marx, who bought my Shadow Gold '72 GTO WW5 car from me earlier this year, has brought up an interesting question regarding the pricing of the WW5 package.

Shipping date...Trans.A/C?..Wheels....Paint/Interior.................Option Price..Total MSRP...Shipped To......................................Current Whereabouts (if known)

09/16/71..........M40..Yes..,Pov Cap..Sundance Orange/Saddle.$1,012.13......$5,590.60.....AC Spark Plug Div. - GMC, Flint MI.........Steve V. in NC, then to Canada
11/23/71..........M40..Yes...Honeys...Shadow Gold/Saddle........$1,012.13......$5,332.47.....Routszo ng-Malmo Motors, Sedalia, MO...Mike Marx in Florida
01/13/72..........M22..No....Pov Cap...Lucerne Blue/Ivory...........$982.00.......$4,843.70.....Porait h, Inc., Faribault, MN..................Jeff Potokar in WI
03/08/72..........M40..No....Honeys....Sundance Orange/Saddle...$987.00.......$4,996.60.....Kyle Motors, Vermillion, OH..................Supercarbob in Michigan
03/14/72..........M40..Yes...Rally II's..Anaconda Gold/Saddle.......$987.00.......$5,431.60.....Taber Pontiac, Inc., Atlanta, GA...........Screamingchief in Austin, currently in OK?
04/03/72..........M22..Yes...Rally II's..Adriatic Blue/Ivory............$982.00.......$5,445.61.....Ginaf ra Pontiac, La Crescenta, CA.........On E-bay, in California
04/27/72 build ..M22..No....Rally II's..Quezal Gold/Saddle........(I have only the buld sheet)..King Pontiac, Gaithersburg, MD.............?????
04/25/72..........M40...No...Rally II's...Cardinal Red/Ivory............$987.00.......$4,8*5.60.....Hall Buick-Pontiac Co., Smyrna, DE........hfalzx7 in NJ
6/06/72............M40..Yes...Honeys...Monarch Yellow/Ivory........$987.00.......$6,043.65.....Everett Frizzell Pontiac, Austin, TX........Sold to a collector in Florida
06/12/72..........M22..No....Rally II's..Sundance Orange/Saddle...$982.00.......$4,759.60.....Held Pontiac Co, Corvallis, OR...............Joe Lenoir in Washington State
9/22/72!!!........M22..Yes...Honeys....Cardinal Red/Ivory............$982.00.......$5,504.70.....Ceram i Pontic, Paramus, NJ..................Chris Haggerty in CT (note: corrected trans per Chris post)
......................M40..Yes................Card inal Red/.................................................. .................................................. .........Steve Barcak in Arizona

Note: Unless otherwise noted, all of these are hardtop cars.

Not a big deal, buy interesting nonetheless.

Comments?

BTW, please send me any and all WW5 invoices and/or build sheets you might have. TIA!

[The Boss]

09/22/72 M-40 A/C Honeys Cardinal Red $982.00

[Steve Barcak]

I think both of the WW5s i have owned had different prices than those., I can check when I get home.
Steve Barcak www.pontiacheaven.org
"Real Pontiacs only....no corporate nonsense!"

[mmarx]

The Sundance Orange car on Ebay awhile back that was won by supercarbob had an option price of $987, Auto, Honeys and no air. Unfortunately, I don't have the date or the PHS on the car (option price was listed in ad).

Lloyd, can you add to the list the state that the cars were shipped to and the invoice price?

Looks like the option price might have dropped later in the model year, maybe due to lack of sales?

BTW, do you know whatever happened to the Monarch Yellow car that you were looking at a year or so ago?

I know, to many questions...

Mike

[steve v]

Lloyd,
My old WW5 GTO (9-16-71) was $1012.13.

Notice that this car was shipped directly to AC Spark Plug Division-GMC (30% & 35% discounts hand written) along with the Experimental & PO-N942025-3 options listed. I owned this car in the early 90's & no one could answer what those options were back then. Maybe that info is out there now?

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by mmarx

The Sundance Orange car on Ebay awhile back that was won by supercarbob had an option price of $987, Auto, Honeys and no air. Unfortunately, I don't have the date or the PHS on the car (option price was listed in ad).

Lloyd, can you add to the list the state that the cars were shipped to and the invoice price?

Looks like the option price might have dropped later in the model year, maybe due to lack of sales?

BTW, do you know whatever happened to the Monarch Yellow car that you were looking at a year or so ago?

I know, to many questions...

Mike

All duly corrected and added, Mike!

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by Steve Barcak

I think both of the WW5s i have owned had different prices than those., I can check when I get home.
Steve Barcak www.pontiacheaven.org
"Real Pontiacs only....no corporate nonsense!"

Thanks, Steve.

In addition, if you don't mind, would you please e-mail me both of those invoices? I'll add all the info to my original post above.

TIA!

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by steve v

Lloyd,
My old WW5 GTO (9-16-71) was $1012.13.

Notice that this car was shipped directly to AC Spark Plug Division-GMC (30% & 35% discounts hand written) along with the Experimental & PO-N942025-3 options listed. I owned this car in the early 90's & no one could answer what those options were back then. Maybe that info is out there now?

Hey Steve:

Neat car, and obviously an engineering or brass hat deal.

Any idea where the car is now? Also, was it an M22 or M40 deal?

Thanks!

[steve v]

It's an M40 car, Saddle int w/Black top. The car went to Canada & was restored there. I would guess it's still up there somewhere.

[Lloyd-TX]

Thanks, Steve.

Keep 'em coming, guys!

[PB]

Here's one I have

[Lloyd-TX]

Thanks, Pat.

It's already on the list - Supercarbob's car.

So far, and overwhelming majority of WW5's are M40 equipped. Making that Adriatic Blue car on e-bay (M22 with A/C) all that more rare!

Any more WW5 invoices out there?

[RAM AIR 1967]

My WW5 is a 4-speed Sundance Orange build date 6-12-72 WW5 Option $982.00. It was found at the dealer PHS list price $4,759.60. Lloyd do you have my PHS.

[LUST01]

The prices shown in Eric White's Illustrated Identification Guide for the WW5 option are as follows:

Coupe w/M40 $995.00
Coupe w/M22 $990.00
Hardtop w/M40 $987.00
Hardtop w/M22 $982.00

Looking at Lloyds list the Hardtop have the price listed in the guide and The M40 coupes do not. Makes me wonder about the M22 coupes. I think most of the information in Eric's book is based on initial model year option lists, sales brochures, dealer sales guides, etc. It looks like Pontiac changed the price at sometime.

Matt

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by RAM AIR 1967

My WW5 is a 4-speed Sundance Orange build date 6-12-72 WW5 Option $982.00. It was found at the dealer PHS list price $4,759.60. Lloyd do you have my PHS.

Hey Joe - thanks for e-mailing your docs, and I've added your car to my post above.

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by LUST01

The prices shown in Eric White's Illustrated Identification Guide for the WW5 option are as follows:

Coupe w/M40 $995.00
Coupe w/M22 $990.00
Hardtop w/M40 $987.00
Hardtop w/M22 $982.00

Looking at Lloyds list the Hardtop have the price listed in the guide and The M40 coupes do not. Makes me wonder about the M22 coupes. I think most of the information in Eric's book is based on initial model year option lists, sales brochures, dealer sales guides, etc. It looks like Pontiac changed the price at sometime.

Matt

Matt - I would imagine that the price differential between the coupe and hardtop WW5 option was because sport mirrors weren't used on the coupes due to vent glass interference.

[screamingchief]

Hey there Lloyd,here are the broadcast sheet and invoices from my old WW5 car,the quality is'nt perfect (scans of copies,the new owners got the originals) but the info can be made out for the most part.

Last I heard the car is in Oklahoma,and IMO needs desperately to be saved someday before it's lost forever,but I digress on that bit of info.

Mine was an M40,hardtop,shows the option price as $987.00 .

Was sold new at Taber pontiac,3264 Peachtree Rd.,Atlanta,Ga.,30305.

It was made at the Lakewood plant in Atlanta,Ga. as well.

You cant make it out on the scan,but I believe the dealer code is zone 18,dealer 764.

HTH.

[The Boss]

9/22/72!!!........ M40..Yes...Honeys...Cardinal Red/Ivory............$982.00.......$5,504.70.....Ceram i Pontiac, Paramus, NJ..................Chris Haggerty in CT (Chris, maybe an M22?)

Remember Lloyd, my car is the one with the December build date on the cowl tag, but the September Invoice - there may be another earlier invoice for it at PHS but this is the one I got.

[RAM AIR 1967]

I allso have a 1971 TA build date on cowl tag Jan. and PHS date Mar.10 sold to Pontiac Motor DIV. ENG. DEVEL.

[steve v]

Lloyd,
Did you see this one on ebay?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...spagenameZWDVW

The phs on the ad is too out of focus to read but it does have a Formula wheel & dash tach.

You have room for another one?