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22687 · 05-25-2007, 11:37 PM

Hi I was wondering if anybody has heard anything recently from Dave @ ECS about any Pontiac decals?

After reading the above posts I contacted him last August and, after some friendly discussion, sent him the original Emissions, air cleaner and coolant decals from my 70 Formula. I also sent along a copy of the current Ames supplied repop to compare and use for missing info as the original emissions one was rough. Dave said it was quite useable. After a couple months the originals were returned to me. Dave seemed quite appreciative and told me he should have something worked up "shortly" to show me and as above, offered a couple of freebies in return. Nice gesture but I'd be more than happy to pay for accurate repops if I have to. The main point of sending mine were to help get some more accurate reproductions on the market.

Anyway, I waited a few months and sent him an email as a follow up in April but heard nothing back. I did the same 2 weeks ago but again no reply. Earlier this week I went directly to the ECS website and used their "contact us" and asked again about the status of the decals. Three days and I've heard nothing. I've checked my spam filter to make sure a reply wasn't being blocked but its A-OK.

At this point I'm more disappointed rather than anything else as Dave seemed like a straight up guy and our back and forth was brief and friendly. I'm not out anything other than the s/h to get the decals to him but I think I'm entitled to a reply. Does anyone know anything more? Is ECS maybe going through some problems or has Dave maybe left them?

Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this.

njsteve · 05-25-2007, 11:48 PM

I'd imagine they are probably traveling, as this is the major show season and they're on the road for extended periods of time.

necdb3 · 05-26-2007, 08:15 AM

I just spoke with Dave yesterday afternoon on the phone. He is going to make an emission label and door sticker for me.

Dave

22687 · 05-26-2007, 08:53 AM

Thanks for the above responses. I guess maybe the best course of action would be for me to phone Dave rather than depend on email.

njsteve · 05-26-2007, 10:34 AM

Definitely call Dave. It looks like they either have a ton of emails or your address is getting filtered out of their emails.

frank2w87 · 05-28-2007, 05:41 PM

Ditto what the others have said about Dave. He is a perfectionist so he may be playing around with the decal material or the font to get it right. I also sent him my trunk decal for my 1972 T/A but he returned it to me because it was too far gone. He's defiinitely a stand up guy but this is a sideline for him so response time on new stuff can be a little slow.

22687 · 05-28-2007, 06:36 PM

Yes I very much got that impression of Dave last fall too. He was quick to reply to my emails while copying my decals and I guess I just felt let down or disappointed that it seemed that I was being ignored now. I hope I didn't come across like I was bashing Dave as that really wasn't my intent.

I haven't had a chance to phone him yet but I'll get to that later in the week.

Thanks again for everyone's input.

RWS · 08-08-2007, 01:04 PM

I know it's been awhile since anyone posted anything on this thread, but as I am looking for repop decals for my 70 RA III Formula 400, I thought I would see if there was any new information available.

For what it is worth, a number of decals are currently available on eBay, and while generally they look pretty good to me and the prices seem reasonable, I am hardly an expert on the subject.

The one decal I am most interested is the engine emission one. One seller has two listed ("PC" and "PB" - see the links below), but to me neither looks right for a RA III.

Any comments?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-...2608QQtcZphoto

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-...2470QQtcZphoto

22687 · 08-08-2007, 06:04 PM

Kind of hard to tell. Those photos (at least the one for PC decal) the guy is using are really crummy. I think I can see a couple of improvements over the repops Ames sells but I'd like a clearer photo first before I could be certain.

keith k · 08-08-2007, 10:09 PM

RWS, my '70 RAIII Formula has its original decal, and it's a "PC". Agree the quality of the photo in the ad for the PC could be better. In general, it looks pretty close to mine except it has rounded corners. The corners on my original are square....

RWS · 08-08-2007, 11:38 PM

Thanks Keith.

I could have sworn that the decal on my car was different. Given that my car was built for and delivered to a dealer in Canada, perhaps it was, but little chance of finding a repop for that.

pontiac poncho · 08-10-2007, 02:17 PM

Hey guys.
Just wanted to chime in on this. The auctions on Ebay are mine. I agree the photos could be better, but the finish on the decal reflects off the scanner when I do this. If anyone can help on that, it would be appreciated. I've tried taking pictures with my camera, but they turn out worse (8.0 megapixel). If you order one from me, and it doesn't look right, just send it back and I'll refund you.
Thanks,
Jason Love
Ram Air Performance
(pontiac_poncho)

keith k · 08-10-2007, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pontiac poncho

Hey guys.
Just wanted to chime in on this. The auctions on Ebay are mine. I agree the photos could be better, but the finish on the decal reflects off the scanner when I do this. If anyone can help on that, it would be appreciated. I've tried taking pictures with my camera, but they turn out worse (8.0 megapixel). If you order one from me, and it doesn't look right, just send it back and I'll refund you.
Thanks,
Jason Love
Ram Air Performance
(pontiac_poncho)

Jason,
Do you actually make them, or just distribute? Can you cut them so the corners are square like original?

68bird400HO · 08-14-2007, 08:40 PM

This is an interesting and informative thread. I am starting to restore my 71 TA 4-speed and took a look at my emission sticker. It is in decent shape and I was able to successfully remove it. I talked to Dave at ECS and am sending it in to be reproduced. So, these should be available in the near future.

x-bird2 · 08-15-2007, 04:39 PM

have same repop for my sd, haven't put it on yet. managed to save my old one, but it's pretty rough. speaking of rear bumper guard rub strips, ditto. i have the metal backing piece, but not the black rubber for it.

68bird400HO · 09-22-2007, 11:04 AM

Just received the repro ECS Automotive made from my 1971 TA 4-speed decal. I think it looks dead on. So, anyone needing one, he now has them available - "PM" code (1971 455HO manual tranny).

giles · 09-29-2007, 08:47 PM

68bird400HO, Two questions...

1) is that a coolant label directly above the emissions tune-up label? (I have seen them on the right side and on the fan shroud, but not on the LH side above the emission decal like that yet!)

2) Does ECS make a '71 455HO Automatic decal?

68bird400HO · 09-30-2007, 12:15 AM

Giles,

1) Yes, I believe it was the Engine coolant decal. ECS has reproductions of these.

2) ECS does not have a '71 automatic decal yet. If someone can provide Dave (@ ECS) an original, or a really detailed picture of one, I believe he could reproduce it pretty easily.

Dens71TA · 09-30-2007, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giles

1) is that a coolant label directly above the emissions tune-up label? (I have seen them on the right side and on the fan shroud, but not on the LH side above the emission decal like that yet!)

Pat's car has the emissions tune-up label AND the coolant label on the RH(passenger) side of the hood latch. Van Nuys factory oddities strike again!

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