[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Great work Doc. Those will pull them old cars around pretty easy.
They do have your timing set for 87 octane safety feature.
You can go up like these guys are saying - and get some really noticeable power increase - so long as you buy better grade gas. And i'm sure you do anyway.

Now for the mild brow beating, lol.
I like the .425 lift cam on street/drivers - but I always go with split pattern (higher lift on exhaust - like factory) on unported/unflowed heads.
But you left room for 1.6 or 1.65 rockers if you ever want to monkey around some.

I'm not satisfied with the 389 numbers.
I wasn't aware they were over rated by that much margin.
I'm realizing it has smaller valves and log exhaust - but damm - and you even made some improvements plus bumped the cam.

I think it might need some attention on the deuces or the fuel delivery.
But in all - its not a race car anyway, it'll drive great with the top down.
And thats all that really matters at the end of the day.

I think you built some really nice dependable engines using good common sense without trying to go to the moon.

Thanks for sharing the data.

[sawyer]

Baron: Where have you been? You have been sorely missed.

[bulletpruf]

Originally Posted by sawyer

Baron: Where have you been? You have been sorely missed.

He's been cheating on us; going to another message board to talk about - dare I say it? - imports!!!

Just kidding BVZ...

Welcome back,

Scott

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Howdy Sawyer
Hows the 70 Pepper Green IV machine doing ?

I've really missed this site. Always has been and always will be my favorite.

I told Bulletpruf what was going on when we swapped engines a while back, and to relay it to you guys if he could.

It got to where it was taking 5 to 10 minutes for a page to load/transition for me on this site (about 4-5 months ago). I got tired of that. Time has been at a premium since then too, I've been trying to get relocated.

I tried all that i knew how, to get better performance on this site, nothing was helping.
This site was the only thing on the whole internet that was doing like that for me.

To get onto Judge forum - 5 to 10 minutes, pick a thread to read - another 5 to 10 minutes to load that page, to reply - another 5 to 10 for reply box, and so on.

I'd try every so often to come on - signed in - and unsigned - same crappy slow motion.

Bulletpruf gave me a call the other day. Was good to hear from him. Scott is a good ol guy real and true. Thought I'd try some more to get use of site again.

Did another disc clean, defrag, file and cookie and history deletion. Not much better, again But there was a thread in TA section I wanted to post on. It took forever.

So I got really really pizzed - did the above rituals again - about 5 times in a row - and then did about 10 more defrags on top of that until nothing else would move anymore on the color chart.

After a few more posts in the TA section it started picking up decent speed again. Now its down to about what used to be normal after making some more posts. About 1-2 minutes per click. I can live with that.

They have too much behind the scenes tracking junk/cookie reading crap on this site is my theory. I have the slowest internet connection in the world at 14.4 kbps (free) but this is the only site or forum that has ever given this trouble.

Its still doing funky stuff while i type, a paragraph will disappear all of a sudden with just one touch of a key sometimes. Thank goodness for the "undo" right click option.
My VW Diesel forum doesn't have any of these hang ups, and transitions much faster. Even eBay and my Yahoo email run better than this.

Soooo..., I'm back on for now.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

ewww... import just sounds so ---- japanesey

My new driver is a finely engineered 20 year old German Diesel with only 336,000+ miles that sips fuel through a coffee straw

49.5 - 52.1 mpg overall every tank.

And.... I Love It !

[OVERULD]

Welcome back BVZ, good to hear from you again.

BJ

[sawyer]

BVZ: Sorry to hear about your computer troubles. Are you sure it's this site that causes your problems, or have you been lookin' where you shouldn't be? LOL

One correction on your post, my car is a 69, midnight green. You were very close.

I am glad an all around good guy like you with so much knowledge is back.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Hello there BJ

Sawyer, you mean you don't have a Green 70 IV Judge ? Well then get busy ! lol

The porn sites always function fine and easy
it was just this one giving me the trouble

[dr-doug]

Two other finished engines I picked up yesterday. The 389 is for my Maize '65 vert, the ram air III is for my '70 red auto judge.
I'd say pretty damn good numbers for the III, hard to believe that an air conditioning belt on the previous III would rob that much HP, but remember everything is hooked up. The two engines otherwise were built identically.


DW

[johnta1]

Cool numbers, Doug


I take it the 389 had that Comp Cam in it, what cam is in the RA III?

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

I think Doug said he built them all the same as far as Cam, C/R, Balancing and hardened seats.

I'd be sweetly pleased with all the 400 and the 455 numbers.
Without ANY belts and the timing put up to 32, i bet the 400's would go 400 hp.

I'm kinda sorta bummed a little on these 389's.
Supposed to be 360 hp. Without belts, and timing bumped up to 32, maybe the Reef engine would put 360 on the sheet.

I was just expecting more. Not expecting RA3 hp match, but closer than what they did.
Am i clear in understanding these all had alt and pwr str belts in place during test ? (and Sable had a-c belt)

Very interesting data Doc. Thanks for sharing. Its about as honest of a comparison as anyone could hope for. Neat Stuff.

Doug, any thoughts why the Reef and Mayfair engines have as much spread on output ?
454tq/345hp vs. 414tq/323hp

[dr-doug]

Reef is stroked.
Other than the maize car,all other engines have the same hydraulic rollers.
Everything is hooked up on these dudes.
Should have some of these engines installed in chassis pretty quick and I'll post pics.
I've had them built to stay together, obviously there is room to play, but I'll build some others in the future to play, these are too valuable to monkey with in my opinion. DW