[threefidee]

Originally Posted by Lloyd-TX

Welcome aboard, RA kooter.

Nice snag on the HO RA Formy

As a matter of fact, are you aware that DJ just bought a Laurentian Green '71 455HO Formy M22 car? He's building it for the PSD's as well.

I don't think DJ sounds like "Weymooth" to me

Jody

[Judge273]

DJ would rather have the M40 anyways. Like the ramair kooter car without the a/c, ps, and power anything if I know Dan choice in cars. Even if if came that way it would be put on a shelf.

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by threefidee

I don't think DJ sounds like "Weymooth" to me

Jody

Oops - Jody is correct - MW bought the LG '71 HO Formy!

My bad.

[Judge273]

Did he buy the one from IL?

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by Judge273

Did he buy the one from IL?

Mike, I can't recall exactly where Mark's HO Formy came from, but originally it was a Royal car.

To quote Mark: "It was built right, no ps, no pb, no spoilers, just a good light weight racer."

[Judge273]

That would be the CA formy car. That was nicer of the two LG 4 speed cars.

[OVERULD]

Originally Posted by ramair kooter

this is my first post here in response to ricksgto asking about the green ho from texas. i did buy it from an add on here. flew from grand rapids to austin and drove the car back. vinyl top was removed to expose red primer and headliner was falling down on me. pass power window was inop and it was 90 + for most of the drive back. a/c inop too. i bent a lot of minds on the highway though going 80 mph most of the way back with 3.08 cogs. looked like somthing joe dirt would drive! car is an original laurentian green with black vinyl top no wing 455 ho ram air auto. with 30 options. i'll post phs later. here's a couple pics for now. i am tearing it down for a complete resto with pure stocks in mind. i live 20 min. from stanten!

Welcome to the boards Kooter! Love that screen name and nice find on the Formula. Can't wait to see it come back to life.

BJ

[ramair kooter]

thanks guys. i probably paid too much for this car, original block gone, pq trans gone with it , rust around back window under vinyl top, hit in left rear -by door jam. gonna require new quarter. on the plus side, i got the 197 heads, 270 carb correct 71 intake an nos left rear quarter and the rest of the body is A-1. all 4 kr wheels there too-dont no how they managed to stay around. ill get serious about the body work late winter early spring. i got the subframe out and will detail over the winter. need to find correct ye 4 bolt block!! here are some more pics i took the night i left from austin. the gto in the pic is a real ram air 67. kooter want!! 3 years ago though and i havent been in contact with them since.

[300 H&H]

RA kooter,

Are you in the market for a PQ code T400? If so you should PM me before I think I might change my mind......Best regards Kirk

[2manyT/A'S]

Looks like a decent piece with a TON of small/minor issues.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...spagenameZWDVW

>Nicely optioned (none?) It's a Go FAST HO!
>Original fenders is GOOD.
>I LIKE the "cheap seats"

What sucks:
> RED plug wires on a 50K car? NOT!
> Wrong plating on booster & alt.fan
> Emissions decal on the wrong side of hood latch
> 1980/81 gauge bezel
> rear spoiler endcaps need a trim on the bottom
> parking light fillers should be body color.

It was likely restored by a non-Pontiac guy.

There's NO mention of cars origin or how much rust needed to be removed.
Being from the east coat,it SURELY had it's share.

Even with it's issues,I still like it.

Needs MORE BETTER pics.

Wonder if there will be any takers at 50 grand,a week before Christmas in todays economy.

[giles]

Originally Posted by 2manyT/A'S

What sucks:

> parking light fillers should be body color.

2Many, you have spent waaay too much time out west looking at Van Nuys cars. I think I have pretty good data to suggest the following;

Park Lamp fillers were body color on most all 70s
They were body color on Van Nuys 71s
They were silver on Norwood 71s

I would be interested in anyone else's observations on known original cars - Might be worth starting a new thread....

[Lloyd-TX]

Argent Silver parking lamp fillers would be correct on this car, IMO.

However, to add to the list - incorrect engine color and of course the non-OE exhaust system.

[2manyT/A'S]

Originally Posted by giles

2Many, you have spent waaay too much time out west looking at Van Nuys cars. I think I have pretty good data to suggest the following;

Park Lamp fillers were body color on most all 70s
They were body color on Van Nuys 71s
They were silver on Norwood 71s

I would be interested in anyone else's observations on known original cars - Might be worth starting a new thread....

I've seen numerous 70-73's with argent/silver fillers & just assumed that they had been replaced and left in the color that they came out of the box in.

When I replaced them on my 70 T/A in the mid 80's,I left them that color (natural) & quite liked it that way. (a bit more contrast going on)

Do we have any cold hard facts to back this up,or was it just that they ran out of certain colors for a short time?

How about 72's & 73's? (obviously plastic valance equipped birds were body color)

[Transamric]

No, no, NO! This is a '72, not a '71. Originally there would have been no park lamp fillers, since it would have been built with a plastic valance. But you guys know that.
And FWIW, I agree with Giles assessment that only '71 Norwood built should be Argent fillers.
On this '72, another odd thing,...notice how low the shaker sits in the hoods' opening? Wrong motor mounts? Some other year air cleaner base?

[RicksGTO]

so what would my Dec. built '72 have since it probably got the metal replacement valance under warranty or sometime in it's early life. It has unpainted fillers now if I remember correctly. My car is being painted the original silver so if it's body colored or argent silver, no one will probably notice unless unpainted is correct.

[Transamric]

When the dealerships replaced the plastic valances with the steel parts, they most likely would have used the kit that Pontiac sold for this conversion. I have one of these kits, NOS, & the fillers are a semi-gloss Argent Silver. But I'd bet that most shops painted them the bodies color.

[RicksGTO]

thanks, then argent silver it will be

[Father&Son73T/A]

Geez Edith,this is worse than figurin out broads............

[2manyT/A'S]

Originally Posted by Transamric

No, no, NO! This is a '72, not a '71. Originally there would have been no park lamp fillers, since it would have been built with a plastic valance. But you guys know that.
And FWIW, I agree with Giles assessment that only '71 Norwood built should be Argent fillers.
On this '72, another odd thing,...notice how low the shaker sits in the hoods' opening? Wrong motor mounts? Some other year air cleaner base?

BUSTED!!!

ALL three of us by Transamric.

I was posting at 3AM.

Giles & Lloyd,what's YOUR alibi/excuse?

Back to the ebay 72,I have a funny feeling that it likely has the 4WD springs (stumpjumpers) in it.

More/better pics I'm SURE would reveal some OTHER interesting "features".

[1971455HO]

Originally Posted by Thumpin455_GTO

Just cuz you sold them all... I have been thinking of cloning my 72 HO with the 71 400 Formy, same color, wheels, interior etc. Identical twins for all intents and purposes, that way I can drive the 71 and not worry about wrecking a rare one.

At least I caught up with you so to speak.

Dang Guys, I'm not in oil either, but I would love to have a nice '71 Formula. I would still mourn over it too if something happened to it. Isn't even a 71 Formula rare now days? I wouldn't care if it's a 400 auto car, I would be glad to have it. Am I missing something? Are you guys just joking with each other?